Air pump delete on an 84 ?
#21
Advanced
the 85" belt was too small for me though, I used one 1 1/2" longer and it works great.
#22
Racer
I just did this on my 84 and I am amazed at how easy this was, bought the Dayco belt and removed all the plumbing (which was the hardest part) and wow what a difference it makes in cleaning up the front of the engine. My car was converted to flowmaster dual exhaust and the air tube was just just laying on the pipes under the car.
#23
I removed my ac compressor later and used a dorman 34157 ac delete kit which is for 88-92 camaro and firebird. I used an 87.5" belt with factory pulleys.
#24
Instructor
I just did this the other weekend. Works great!
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...your-84-a.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...your-84-a.html
#25
84corvette air pump
Can you just yank it all out and is it. Connected to converter im thinking of getting rid of cat no emissions or inspection in sc
also looking for vacuum and wiring diagram for my 84 corvette
also looking for vacuum and wiring diagram for my 84 corvette
#27
Racer
With the Air Pump removed, I also removed the tubing to the exhaust manifolds. You can simply plug the tubing, but when I changed my head gaskets a few years ago, I had the tubes cut and welded shut.
I really don't think there is much of a performance gain, but I am really happy I can reach the spark plugs much easier after this mod was done.
Which wiring diagram are you looking for?
#28
Racer
Here's a vacuum pic for the '84.
Also if you really need this info, I'd look into buying a Factory Service Manual. Purchase the CD version on ebay. The Bishko one's are searchable and you can print out the pages you need. No sense getting a hard to find book dirty.
The CD also includes the Electrical Troubleshooting manual.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-Chevrol...RWu9FH&vxp=mtr
Also if you really need this info, I'd look into buying a Factory Service Manual. Purchase the CD version on ebay. The Bishko one's are searchable and you can print out the pages you need. No sense getting a hard to find book dirty.
The CD also includes the Electrical Troubleshooting manual.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-Chevrol...RWu9FH&vxp=mtr
#29
My pump was sounding pretty rough for some time, the second actually, so I got a belt for a 95 Taurus as recommended and the fit was perfect. I was surprised that my ac pump was moving and found a broken bracket at the bottom, I'll need to address that eventually.
#30
Advanced
This thread is still open after five years so here goes...is this 85" belt still a viable option in removing the air pump on an '84? I have an '84 as a backup to my '98 C5. The '84's air pump bearings are long gone and I'm not comfortable actually using the car in fear of total destruction of the pump.
If I understand this thread correctly, you can remove the air pump 'wheel' then replace the belt with a shorter 85" belt (Dayco 5060850) without obstruction(s). Like one poster said,
Thanks in advance...
edit: I popped the hood, released the tensioner and routed the belt under the air pump wheel and tensioner to see if it cleared the water pump and it does but what provides tension on an 85" belt? Do you loosen and tighten up on the alternator and/or air conditioner compressor and use that to provide the tension? That's the way it was done years ago before spring loaded tensioners were used.
If I understand this thread correctly, you can remove the air pump 'wheel' then replace the belt with a shorter 85" belt (Dayco 5060850) without obstruction(s). Like one poster said,
Seems too good to be true..
edit: I popped the hood, released the tensioner and routed the belt under the air pump wheel and tensioner to see if it cleared the water pump and it does but what provides tension on an 85" belt? Do you loosen and tighten up on the alternator and/or air conditioner compressor and use that to provide the tension? That's the way it was done years ago before spring loaded tensioners were used.
Last edited by Vulcan73; 04-27-2018 at 12:32 PM.
#31
Racer
Tensioner pulley should/can still be use after removing air pump and provides tension on belt. Just run belt around alternator, under tensioner pulley, and around A/C pump. If tensioner pulley is to low and causes belt to rub water pump pulley, then you need a shorter belt. If you would like a picture of what it should look like, I can post one but it will have to wait until tonight.
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#32
Advanced
Tensioner pulley should/can still be use after removing air pump and provides tension on belt. Just run belt around alternator, under tensioner pulley, and around A/C pump. If tensioner pulley is to low and causes belt to rub water pump pulley, then you need a shorter belt. If you would like a picture of what it should look like, I can post one but it will have to wait until tonight.
#33
Racer
Found my photo on another post. I cant recall if I used an 85" belt or not but regardless of belt length it worked and worked well.
Last edited by MikeP84; 04-27-2018 at 01:42 PM.
#34
Melting Slicks
The 85" belt is what I used on my 84. I have been running it with no problems since 2012.
In the above picture someone put the 85 and later L-98 P/S reservoir on this 84. I left my 84 original P/S reservoir on mine.
In the above picture someone put the 85 and later L-98 P/S reservoir on this 84. I left my 84 original P/S reservoir on mine.
#35
Racer
That's correct, I am using an 86 style P/S reservoir but not needed for air pump removal. I am using newer reservoir bc I have completely removed original reservoir bracket and have converted to newer intake and needed the room for air filter.
#36
Advanced
Mike...thanks again...can't argue with that. I now see what I did wrong with my simulating the 85" belt. I should have removed the air pump wheel which apparently pushed the belt under the tensioner wheel. Tomorrow's project is to remove that wheel then re-do the simulation.
By the way, this car has been garaged and mostly idle for the past 18 years. I occasionally take it out to ensure it works or as a backup when my '98 C5 is laid up for maintenance. I know the '84's aren't highly regarded by the Corvette purist but this thing will blow the socks off my '98 in a 1/4 mile.
By the way, this car has been garaged and mostly idle for the past 18 years. I occasionally take it out to ensure it works or as a backup when my '98 C5 is laid up for maintenance. I know the '84's aren't highly regarded by the Corvette purist but this thing will blow the socks off my '98 in a 1/4 mile.
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#37
Racer
Yep no problem! A picture is worth a thousand words!
Wow long time! Even though I have modernized my 84s intake system with a pro flo xt, I loved the low end torque you got from them! I was able to give a friend who has a 2015 5.0 a run for his money from light to light.
Wow long time! Even though I have modernized my 84s intake system with a pro flo xt, I loved the low end torque you got from them! I was able to give a friend who has a 2015 5.0 a run for his money from light to light.
#38
Advanced
Wow long time!
Yep, these '84s definitely have some git up and go!
#39
Yes you can. I took my pump off completely and used the equvilant of that belt.
This thread is still open after five years so here goes...is this 85" belt still a viable option in removing the air pump on an '84? I have an '84 as a backup to my '98 C5. The '84's air pump bearings are long gone and I'm not comfortable actually using the car in fear of total destruction of the pump.
If I understand this thread correctly, you can remove the air pump 'wheel' then replace the belt with a shorter 85" belt (Dayco 5060850) without obstruction(s). Like one poster said,
Thanks in advance...
edit: I popped the hood, released the tensioner and routed the belt under the air pump wheel and tensioner to see if it cleared the water pump and it does but what provides tension on an 85" belt? Do you loosen and tighten up on the alternator and/or air conditioner compressor and use that to provide the tension? That's the way it was done years ago before spring loaded tensioners were used.
If I understand this thread correctly, you can remove the air pump 'wheel' then replace the belt with a shorter 85" belt (Dayco 5060850) without obstruction(s). Like one poster said,
Thanks in advance...
edit: I popped the hood, released the tensioner and routed the belt under the air pump wheel and tensioner to see if it cleared the water pump and it does but what provides tension on an 85" belt? Do you loosen and tighten up on the alternator and/or air conditioner compressor and use that to provide the tension? That's the way it was done years ago before spring loaded tensioners were used.