Trouble purging air from cooling system. Have question...
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Cliff's first post is your best bet.
Keep the overflow res full. Run it up to temp and pack with water. Cap her off while holding that RPM. You may want another hand to crack open the bleeder as well. Drive and when cool open the cap and add more water if necessary. Might take a few tries....
Keep the overflow res full. Run it up to temp and pack with water. Cap her off while holding that RPM. You may want another hand to crack open the bleeder as well. Drive and when cool open the cap and add more water if necessary. Might take a few tries....
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Increasing water speed has diminishing returns; pumping the water twice as fast (as stock) won't cool twice as good, so while it may not provide a benefit for the cost, power used, etc., increasing coolant speed won't certainly cause overheating -as the myth says.
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Cliff's first post is your best bet.
Keep the overflow res full. Run it up to temp and pack with water. Cap her off while holding that RPM. You may want another hand to crack open the bleeder as well. Drive and when cool open the cap and add more water if necessary. Might take a few tries....
Keep the overflow res full. Run it up to temp and pack with water. Cap her off while holding that RPM. You may want another hand to crack open the bleeder as well. Drive and when cool open the cap and add more water if necessary. Might take a few tries....
Last edited by WW7; 09-21-2015 at 07:24 PM.
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I have the highest flowing pump I could find and have no problems with air. It's on my track car set up for maximum cooling. Cruising on the street output temp is only 98° but racing it gets to 200°. Now if I could only keep the oil temp under 300°!
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WW7 (09-22-2015)
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Try pushing the air out of the bleeders with a cooling system pressure tester, and the engine off. This will take the water pump and thermostat out of the picture completely, as they'll be inactive.
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The L-98 engine doesn't have any bleeders like the LT1 engine does...I'm going to install one in the back of the manifold and maybe drill and tap one in the thermostat housing to help in purging the air...Can't hurt...WW
Last edited by WW7; 09-21-2015 at 08:39 PM.
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#29
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Ok I was thinking LT1 too. L98 shouldn't really have air trapping issues should it? Ive never had air bleed issues with any of my L98's that I know of.
#30
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Have you tried running the engine up to temperature with the radiator cap off ?
you can do it in the driveway or drive it around the block with the cap on first click,
if the radiator is full, when the engine comes up to temp and the thermostat opens (you can just watch the temp gauge) and you can then top up with coolant then you have probably got rid of some air in the system.
you can do it in the driveway or drive it around the block with the cap on first click,
if the radiator is full, when the engine comes up to temp and the thermostat opens (you can just watch the temp gauge) and you can then top up with coolant then you have probably got rid of some air in the system.
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Have you tried running the engine up to temperature with the radiator cap off ?
you can do it in the driveway or drive it around the block with the cap on first click,
if the radiator is full, when the engine comes up to temp and the thermostat opens (you can just watch the temp gauge) and you can then top up with coolant then you have probably got rid of some air in the system.
you can do it in the driveway or drive it around the block with the cap on first click,
if the radiator is full, when the engine comes up to temp and the thermostat opens (you can just watch the temp gauge) and you can then top up with coolant then you have probably got rid of some air in the system.
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WW7 (09-22-2015)
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I see some priced in the mid to higher $20's.
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Up until my old water pump went bad a few weeks ago the car was fine so it's not an internal gas leak...I have just started having this problem since I replaced the water pump on my car....I used a high flow water pump this time and I'm thinking I may go back to a stock pump..At least with the stock flow pumps I've used I could get them to eventually purge....
Last edited by WW7; 09-22-2015 at 08:08 AM.
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I looked back at post 20 and you're adding coolant air drains because your oil temp was 10 degree warmer? That's strange, I also think it's strange your car "runs terrible" from a water temp increase 165 to 180. It sounds like a bad tune. It sound run fine at any temp.
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It's not that the oil temp is higher, it's how fast it can jump 10-14 degrees now.It use to go up slowly and come down slowly...This can be caused by a hot spot in the engine because of air in the coolant.. Maybe terrible was an extreme word to use , but it doesn't run as well at 160-165 degrees as it does at 180-185..The main reason I know there's air is because I can be running along at 45-50 mph and the coolant temperature is jumping from 179 degrees to around 188 degrees (up and down).The car never overheats and when Im stuck at a light and the temp goes up high enough to make the fan come on, the temp does come down as the fan runs...Just not as fast as it did before......WW
Last edited by WW7; 09-22-2015 at 11:48 AM.
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It's not that the oil temp is higher, it's how fast it can jump 10-14 degrees now.It use to go up slowly and come down slowly...This can be caused by a hot spot in the engine because of air in the coolant.. Maybe terrible was an extreme word to use , but it doesn't run as well at 160-165 degrees as it does at 180-185..The main reason I know there's air is because I can be running along at 45-50 mph and the coolant temperature is jumping from 179 degrees to around 188 degrees (up and down).The car never overheats and when Im stuck at a light and the temp goes up high enough to make the fan come on, the temp does come down as the fan runs...Just not as fast as it did before......WW
2. Water temp fluctuates 9 degrees at cruise.
The first thing I would look at is if the radiator is dirty clogged like these cars get.
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The car ran and cooled great until the old water pump went bad,, and it still cooled fine , it just leaked out the weep hole... Nothing else was changed just the water pump was replaced...
Last edited by WW7; 09-22-2015 at 12:41 PM.
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