C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

Ring and Pinion fitment question?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-26-2002, 04:27 PM
  #1  
TA
Team Owner
Thread Starter
 
TA's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Location: Phila., PA burbs
Posts: 20,953
Received 261 Likes on 159 Posts

Default Ring and Pinion fitment question?

I'm in the process of purchasing a 3.07 ring and pinion set from someone here on the forum. He had bought the set with the intention of putting them in his '87 Vette, but decided on 3.54s instead. I'm just trying to verify that will fit in my existing carrier. I currently have 2.59s in my '91. Can anyone verify that the 3.07s will swap right in? Thanks, Tom.


[Modified by TA, 10:04 PM 8/26/2002]
Old 08-26-2002, 06:53 PM
  #2  
TA
Team Owner
Thread Starter
 
TA's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Location: Phila., PA burbs
Posts: 20,953
Received 261 Likes on 159 Posts

Default Re: Ring and Pinion fitment question? (TA)

TTT
Old 08-26-2002, 11:04 PM
  #3  
TA
Team Owner
Thread Starter
 
TA's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Location: Phila., PA burbs
Posts: 20,953
Received 261 Likes on 159 Posts

Default Re: Ring and Pinion fitment question? (TA)

Anyone?
Old 08-27-2002, 12:34 AM
  #4  
BAdAzZV8
Drifting
 
BAdAzZV8's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2001
Location: Omaha NE
Posts: 1,587
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Ring and Pinion fitment question? (TA)

No, you need the thick gear, that is the thin gear. I learned this the hard way.
Old 08-27-2002, 02:03 AM
  #5  
RadPolo96
Drifting
 
RadPolo96's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2001
Location: Round Rock,Austin, Texas
Posts: 1,759
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Ring and Pinion fitment question? (BAdAzZV8)

No, you need the thick gear, that is the thin gear. I learned this the hard way.
I am in the process of puttin in 3.54's and was told the same thing.
Old 08-27-2002, 04:32 AM
  #6  
C4@your_door
Melting Slicks
 
C4@your_door's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Posts: 2,748
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Ring and Pinion fitment question? (RadPolo96)

Does anyone know what I would need? Thick or thin? I have the babys 2:59's dana 36 and i'm looking to swap the gears.


[Modified by C4@your_door, 2:32 AM 8/27/2002]
Old 08-27-2002, 04:39 AM
  #7  
TIMSPEED
Le Mans Master
 
TIMSPEED's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2001
Location: Modesto CA
Posts: 9,464
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Re: Ring and Pinion fitment question? (C4@your_door)

84-87 = Series 1
88-96 = Series 2
Even though they're Dana 36's, they're different.
TA,
Your car is running that fast with 2.59's?!?!
Old 08-27-2002, 06:07 AM
  #8  
C4@your_door
Melting Slicks
 
C4@your_door's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Posts: 2,748
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Ring and Pinion fitment question? (TIMSPEED)

84-87 = Series 1
88-96 = Series 2
Even though they're Dana 36's, they're different.
TA,
Your car is running that fast with 2.59's?!?!
So I would be in the series 2 category, Is that the thick ones?

Thanks
Old 08-27-2002, 08:39 AM
  #9  
BBA
Safety Car
 
BBA's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Location: Jacksonville Fl
Posts: 3,766
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default Re: Ring and Pinion fitment question? (TA)

I'm in the process of purchasing a 3.07 ring and pinion set from someone here on the forum. He had bought the set with the intention of putting them in his '87 Vette, but decided on 3.54s instead.
It all depends on wether the 3.08 set he 'bought' was meant to replace his existing 2.59 gears. If so, it will be the correct thickness.

Now, if he bought a standard 3.08 set, made for a 3 series carrier, then no, it will not fit. Thats what you have to find out.
Old 08-27-2002, 08:41 AM
  #10  
BBA
Safety Car
 
BBA's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Location: Jacksonville Fl
Posts: 3,766
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default Re: Ring and Pinion fitment question? (TIMSPEED)

84-87 = Series 1
88-96 = Series 2
??? Where did you get this from?

I never heard this. I always knew series 2 as a size for the carrier, as well as series 3. If you had a series 2 carrier, it was the proper thickness for a gear ratio in the 2.xx range, and a series 3 was a carrier correct for a 3.xx gear ratio.

Old 08-27-2002, 09:38 AM
  #11  
UB2 SLOW
Burning Brakes
 
UB2 SLOW's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2002
Location: I could tell but then I would have to kill you
Posts: 822
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Ring and Pinion fitment question? (BBA)

Now, if he bought a standard 3.08 set, made for a 3 series carrier, then no, it will not fit. Thats what you have to find out.[/QUOTE]

TA, BBA is correct. If you have a series 2 carrier and the gears are for a series 3 they will not fit.
Old 08-27-2002, 04:20 PM
  #12  
TA
Team Owner
Thread Starter
 
TA's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Location: Phila., PA burbs
Posts: 20,953
Received 261 Likes on 159 Posts

Default Re: Ring and Pinion fitment question? (UB2 SLOW)

I'm really not positvie whether the set in question is the thick or thin version and niether is the guy I'm buying them from. I know that he bought the set to replace the 2.59s in his existing rear, but he never got as far as installing them before deciding to go with 3.54s instead. He also bought the set used so now I'm really confused about which version they are :crazy: . Well, I think I'm gonna take a chance and buy them because he's giving me a fantastic deal. I guess if they don't fit I can always re-sell them. Anyone know where I can get a bearing kit for the instal job? Thanks for the replies :cheers:
Old 08-27-2002, 05:11 PM
  #13  
UB2 SLOW
Burning Brakes
 
UB2 SLOW's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2002
Location: I could tell but then I would have to kill you
Posts: 822
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Ring and Pinion fitment question? (TA)

TA, you can get the bearing kits from JEGS or any other aftermarket dealer. JEGS had one for about $130.00 if I remember right.
Old 08-27-2002, 05:55 PM
  #14  
TA
Team Owner
Thread Starter
 
TA's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Location: Phila., PA burbs
Posts: 20,953
Received 261 Likes on 159 Posts

Default Re: Ring and Pinion fitment question? (UB2 SLOW)

Ok guys, I got one further question to throw at you. The guy I'm lookoing to buy the set from (James Holley, here on the forum who BTW is a great guy to deal with) has the 3.07 that I'm looking at, as well as the 2.59, that came out of his car originally. My question is will he be able to tell by looking at the two gears, side by side, if they are both the same type.........thick vs. thin. How apparent is the difference, if at all. I'm assuming that if the two are the same type, then the 3.07 should fit in my car.......at least I think???


[Modified by TA, 5:00 PM 8/27/2002]
Old 08-27-2002, 06:52 PM
  #15  
JamesHolleyByGolly
Intermediate
 
JamesHolleyByGolly's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2002
Location: Fresno Ca
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Ring and Pinion fitment question? (TA)

TOM,HOLD THE PHONE! Its me James, I just called TPIS and they said it wouldnt fit. I would have called you but misplaced your number. Call me :D
Old 08-27-2002, 10:28 PM
  #16  
CFI-EFI
Race Director
 
CFI-EFI's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2000
Location: The Top of Utah
Posts: 17,298
Likes: 0
Received 23 Likes on 22 Posts

Default Re: Ring and Pinion fitment question? (TA)

I posted "Gear Facts of Life" in response to BadAzZ28's complaint of having been sold incorrect gears for his application. A read of that post may help clear things up for some.

First: All OE gears, are "thin gears" Second: The series, ie 2 or 3 series, case, has no reference to year model. Third: The case being refered to is the ring gear case. The case inside that the ring gear bolts to. NOT the aluminum diff housing that bolts to the "bat wing". In the Dana 36 ICA carrier, ratios 2.59:1 - 2.73:1 take the "2 series" (Dana part no. 707015X for the empty case) case. 3.07:1 and slower (numerically larger) ratios take the "3 series" (Dana part no. 707016X, empty) case.

A "thick" ring gear is an after market anomoly. It was created by the replacement manufacturers, in order to save their customers from having to buy the OE mandated case when changing gears across the case "break" line. If anyone is contemplating the purchase of OE (Dana) gears, they WILL be the thin gears and will require the correct series case.

I hope this helps clear up some of the "lore" and mystery surrounding gears, gear ratios, and changes, thereto.

RACE ON!!!
Old 08-28-2002, 02:37 AM
  #17  
TA
Team Owner
Thread Starter
 
TA's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Location: Phila., PA burbs
Posts: 20,953
Received 261 Likes on 159 Posts

Default Re: Ring and Pinion fitment question? (JamesHolleyByGolly)

TOM,HOLD THE PHONE! Its me James, I just called TPIS and they said it wouldnt fit. I would have called you but misplaced your number. Call me :D
Thanks, James. I called as well and they told me the same thing. I guess I was still holding out hope that it might fit. It sounds like unless the guy you bought it from purchased it from an aftermarket company specifically for a 2.59 carrier, that it won't fit. Never the less, it was great meeting you and I appreciate your understanding while I researched this. :cheers:

Get notified of new replies

To Ring and Pinion fitment question?




Quick Reply: Ring and Pinion fitment question?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:12 PM.