dizwiz24

the Aftermarket needs to step up their game And make an awd conversion kit for c4 vette.

and im not talkin about some 600 lb weight Adder to make it a pig like gt-r

rather a carbon fiber and titanium awd drivetrain that adds no more than 50 lbs weight.

we put people on the moon so this should be able to happen not sure whay it hasnt yet.

need this more than solid axle conversion -abominations

ex-x-fire

Because it would be hard to do long smoky burnouts.
Save the awd crap for the euro cars.

LongBeachC4

Me think your reading to many Bugatti magazines.

Tom400CFI

For a guy who's worked on C4's as much as you supposedly have, the answer should be self evident.

First, there's no market for it. No one would pay what their car is worth, just to add AWD.

Second, the crank shaft, oil pan, and harmonic damper occupy the space that the front diff would want to occupy. Can't have two parts in the same space. Engine would either need to go back about 8", or up 6" to allow space for a diff and axle shafts.

Not worth it.

aklim

I agree. Why don't you be the first to commission it and patten an "answer"? Put your money where your mouth is and once we see it, I'l bet the money keeps rolling in.

VikingTrad3r

easy there guys!

i think the 2 biggest roadblocks havd both been mentioned, constraints on the physical shape/size and that the c4's are at the bottom of thier depreciation cycles which makes them cheap to acquire and the market would be small for said conversion.

cheers and if u have more ideas i want to hear them!

bill mcdonald

How sure are you about the 8" back?

bill mcdonald

were you around in the era of bald turbo freak?

Also you are high as a kite with this nonsense weight numbers. 50#

http://www.chevyhardcore.com/news/ho...e-71-chevelle/

blackozvet

It's an interesting concept, and do-able with enough time and money,

this 260z hillclimb car is a small block chev with AWD, and its seriously FAST !

crowz

With my driveway Id kill for awd in my vette. But I don't see it happening with the clearances needed to get it in there without some serious work.

TorchTarga94

Because Diz, you would have to swap in an LS1 with coil packs to help recoup some of the weight savings lost. You of all people should know this. Then they might fail one at a time and you'll have to replace them all one by one!!!

Joe C

simple economics - design and development costs would be through the roof, manufacturing and production costs would be through the roof, marketing costs would be through the roof, cost of buying a retrofit kit would be probably more than the worth of any C4 out there, labor costs would be through the roof - most likely 99% of C4 owners would not be capable of making such a conversion. supply and demand - a warehouse full of kits, and only one C4 owner having a demand - . in a nutshell, pretty much a pipe dream. it's not a practical, or realistic idea - easier said than done! my suggestion, if you want a super fast AWD, it most likely would be cheaper to buy a new GT-R -

dizwiz24

its possible to do it...at least for a manual trans (or hopefully a duAl clutch automTed manual - which the aftermarket also needs to step up to the plate with)..

heres how i would do it:

the zf is an unbelievable heavy transmission. there is no reAson it needs to be as heavy as it is....

we already know the zf comes with a 40 lb 'useless-extra-mass' flywheel which is better suited as a boat anchor. so thats 28 lbs easy right there.

next. the zf is 'overbuilt'. which is good if you are making a 1200 rwhp blown turbo car - but we are not.

so some mass can be taken out and with better metallurgy (titanium and high strength steel), i still believe one could achieve similar levels of durAbility. so i think you could drop 25 lbs easily from the transmission.

next you need a front transfer case. make it out of magnesium. titanium parts inside, carbon fiber driveshafts all the way around and you got it.

i would love it if someone came up with a conversion like this so one could rub it in the faces of all the c6/7's that think they have such a superior car. the same people that insult, degrade, and prejudice c4 owners daily on places like CFOT.

this would be a way to say 'guess the c7 isnt so superior after all (ie. no Awd platform - and even if it did it would be pig heavy).

next, the aftermarket needs to come aboard with a dual clutch smg style automated manual gearbox with launch mode.

the combination of these 2, in a blown c4, would make it a better car than any ferrari or lambo.

just need the aftermarket to get its act together and stop dckin' around with failure prone chinese optispark replacement parts.

give us something we want

dizwiz24

i also want to propose that whoever makes this needs to make a quality part.

not like that 'solid axle' abomination someone was selling on here, a few years ago, that hung a solid axle from the rear stabilizer bar using rubber mounts

TorchTarga94

aklim

Who is this "we" you are talking about? How many are in this "we" category and how much to execute your idea?

TorchTarga94

383vett

Probably would be easier to buy a WRX or GTR or any Audi.

Joe C

Diz must be pregnant -

dizwiz24

come on! who wouldnt be onboArd with this???