3" true dual exhaust for an 87?
#21
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If it eases your mind lots of 10 sec cars running around with 2.5 in systems.....their 20hp claim seems pretty optimistic as Ive done it myself but dont think it will hurt you going all 3" or 3 then necking down to 2.5 etc so you have options
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As the exhaust travels through the system it cools quick and doesnt really require as large a pipe at a a point.
Think of a C4 system like an old musclecar (long exh) that dumps by the rear axle
If you use a good straight through muffler (like dynomax ultraflows or) always a plus..and they sound awesome.
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As the exhaust travels through the system it cools quick and doesnt really require as large a pipe at a a point.
Think of a C4 system like an old musclecar (long exh) that dumps by the rear axle
If you use a good straight through muffler (like dynomax ultraflows or) always a plus..and they sound awesome.
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Easy to get crossed up when you want every last bit out of them, wheres the "line" gotta like the sound too
Scroll down to Joe Shermans post
Could have been done on an 8000 rpm 434 who knows but caught the eye none the less. (may not be noticeable on a st car)
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic...bc5faeaa43a4d0
Scroll down to Joe Shermans post
Could have been done on an 8000 rpm 434 who knows but caught the eye none the less. (may not be noticeable on a st car)
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic...bc5faeaa43a4d0
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Easy to get crossed up when you want every last bit out of them, wheres the "line" gotta like the sound too
Scroll down to Joe Shermans post
Could have been done on an 8000 rpm 434 who knows but caught the eye none the less. (may not be noticeable on a st car)
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic...bc5faeaa43a4d0
Scroll down to Joe Shermans post
Could have been done on an 8000 rpm 434 who knows but caught the eye none the less. (may not be noticeable on a st car)
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic...bc5faeaa43a4d0
#24
why double x-pipes?
Google "melrose corvette"
Not stainless, but it comes with a nice system thats long tubes, ceramic coated, comes with an xpipe.
as the system is shipped, it tapers down to 2.5in shortly after the xpipe, but it does not take much to complete the full run in 3in.
I have the system, i had them ship me a second xpipe, and i completed the full 3in run into a set of flow master 40's.
Double xpipes
i should have snapped a view of the entire system yesterday when i had a nice view from the front of the car to the back.
I coated the non stainless system in header paint inside and out prior to install, it baked it self on, and is quiet tough.
Not stainless, but it comes with a nice system thats long tubes, ceramic coated, comes with an xpipe.
as the system is shipped, it tapers down to 2.5in shortly after the xpipe, but it does not take much to complete the full run in 3in.
I have the system, i had them ship me a second xpipe, and i completed the full 3in run into a set of flow master 40's.
Double xpipes
i should have snapped a view of the entire system yesterday when i had a nice view from the front of the car to the back.
I coated the non stainless system in header paint inside and out prior to install, it baked it self on, and is quiet tough.
#25
There is a rule of thumb in place for hp ratings and size. 3" is where you need to be and if you do any more mods you'll be buying 3' anyways.
#26
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With 535 HP (is that an actual observed dyno number, or guesstimate based on the parts?), I'm thinking your 1-3/4" primary headers are going to be the restriction before 2.5" duals will be.
#27
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Mainly i wanted to reduce the drone, and increase the pitch @ RPM.
It helped the drone when crusing at low RPM, especially with those aggressive FM40's.
Higher RPM the car screams, sounds like a proper sports car IMO.
Coworker told me it sounds like an F1 car, and that's pretty much what i wanted...
Another thing it does is to increase the exhaust scavenging (helps to pull fuel and air into the engine), and exhaust pulses smooth out, i think thats part of why the tone changes...
And cruising the freeway @ 1200rpm, it still has a very nice rumble, almost motorcycle sounding.
But as soon as the converter unlocks, and the engine hits 3k rpm, the tone drastically changes.
Like night and day difference.
Top off and driving through a nice tight walled canyon, the car sounds like sex imo.
It helped the drone when crusing at low RPM, especially with those aggressive FM40's.
Higher RPM the car screams, sounds like a proper sports car IMO.
Coworker told me it sounds like an F1 car, and that's pretty much what i wanted...
Another thing it does is to increase the exhaust scavenging (helps to pull fuel and air into the engine), and exhaust pulses smooth out, i think thats part of why the tone changes...
And cruising the freeway @ 1200rpm, it still has a very nice rumble, almost motorcycle sounding.
But as soon as the converter unlocks, and the engine hits 3k rpm, the tone drastically changes.
Like night and day difference.
Top off and driving through a nice tight walled canyon, the car sounds like sex imo.
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Any bigger primary than the 1-3/4 he will probably lose some power and make changing plugs a hassle.
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Love to hear that...
Mainly i wanted to reduce the drone, and increase the pitch @ RPM.
It helped the drone when crusing at low RPM, especially with those aggressive FM40's.
Higher RPM the car screams, sounds like a proper sports car IMO.
Coworker told me it sounds like an F1 car, and that's pretty much what i wanted...
Another thing it does is to increase the exhaust scavenging (helps to pull fuel and air into the engine), and exhaust pulses smooth out, i think thats part of why the tone changes...
And cruising the freeway @ 1200rpm, it still has a very nice rumble, almost motorcycle sounding.
But as soon as the converter unlocks, and the engine hits 3k rpm, the tone drastically changes.
Like night and day difference.
Top off and driving through a nice tight walled canyon, the car sounds like sex imo.
It helped the drone when crusing at low RPM, especially with those aggressive FM40's.
Higher RPM the car screams, sounds like a proper sports car IMO.
Coworker told me it sounds like an F1 car, and that's pretty much what i wanted...
Another thing it does is to increase the exhaust scavenging (helps to pull fuel and air into the engine), and exhaust pulses smooth out, i think thats part of why the tone changes...
And cruising the freeway @ 1200rpm, it still has a very nice rumble, almost motorcycle sounding.
But as soon as the converter unlocks, and the engine hits 3k rpm, the tone drastically changes.
Like night and day difference.
Top off and driving through a nice tight walled canyon, the car sounds like sex imo.
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Mainly i wanted to reduce the drone, and increase the pitch @ RPM.
It helped the drone when crusing at low RPM, especially with those aggressive FM40's.
Higher RPM the car screams, sounds like a proper sports car IMO.
Coworker told me it sounds like an F1 car, and that's pretty much what i wanted...
Another thing it does is to increase the exhaust scavenging (helps to pull fuel and air into the engine), and exhaust pulses smooth out, i think thats part of why the tone changes...
And cruising the freeway @ 1200rpm, it still has a very nice rumble, almost motorcycle sounding.
But as soon as the converter unlocks, and the engine hits 3k rpm, the tone drastically changes.
Like night and day difference.
Top off and driving through a nice tight walled canyon, the car sounds like sex imo.
It helped the drone when crusing at low RPM, especially with those aggressive FM40's.
Higher RPM the car screams, sounds like a proper sports car IMO.
Coworker told me it sounds like an F1 car, and that's pretty much what i wanted...
Another thing it does is to increase the exhaust scavenging (helps to pull fuel and air into the engine), and exhaust pulses smooth out, i think thats part of why the tone changes...
And cruising the freeway @ 1200rpm, it still has a very nice rumble, almost motorcycle sounding.
But as soon as the converter unlocks, and the engine hits 3k rpm, the tone drastically changes.
Like night and day difference.
Top off and driving through a nice tight walled canyon, the car sounds like sex imo.
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here some good reading on C4 exhaust with x pipes. http://garage.grumpysperformance.com...t-system.1174/
#32
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Difficulty changing plugs is sometimes just the price you pay for performance.
#33
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I home built my own 3in exhaust. I re-using the original flowmaster mufflers (just opened them up for 3in) that came with the car. I probably have around $120 in my build so far. I'm running a 05 LQ9 with shorty headers, with no cross pipe at this time. I'm probably around the 400HP area right now. Sounds pretty decent.
You guys with long tube headers, your exhaust system would be super easy to build.
You guys with long tube headers, your exhaust system would be super easy to build.