Seat track repair replacement parts
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Seat track repair replacement parts
C4 Corvette 1984-1996 Seat Track Replacement Parts
Since this is such a common problem on these cars and how overpriced and unreliable used replacement seat units are has anyone found a solution to replace the plastic gear housing inside the seat track transmission.
90% of the time it`s the plastic housing that holds everything into place. There`s got to be someone who 3D prints these seat transmission parts or sells them.
Since this is such a common problem on these cars and how overpriced and unreliable used replacement seat units are has anyone found a solution to replace the plastic gear housing inside the seat track transmission.
90% of the time it`s the plastic housing that holds everything into place. There`s got to be someone who 3D prints these seat transmission parts or sells them.
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This is a good idea.
However, in my case it wasn't worth the time and effort to disassemble and then put the track back together. I decided it was a more efficient use of time to replace the track, even though it was more expensive than replacing the gear.
However, in my case it wasn't worth the time and effort to disassemble and then put the track back together. I decided it was a more efficient use of time to replace the track, even though it was more expensive than replacing the gear.
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Hiw do you pull the gear housing apart? its heavy duty steel rivet no?
drill it out and replace with carriage bolt?
drill it out and replace with carriage bolt?
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I haven't seen a .stl file for these but there might be one out there.
Not likely to find a company that will take the time to build the file unless they see a sizable market. While 3D printing eliminates the mold making process, it still takes design time.
More likely it will take someone building a design in there spare time and sharing the file.
That brings up the problem of printing in the required materials, most likely abs and or nylon. Both materials are hard to print in and require higher than entry level equipment. Also printing environments are stricter for nylon and abs.
I would see it happening like this.
Someone disassembles a good one and duplicates those in a CAD program.
(hopefully they look at common failures and design them out)
Runs prototypes in PLA for form and fit.
Creates the STL file and makes it available.
Files are sent to a replicator for build in the appropriate material.
Generally in the 3D community, .stl files are shared free.
Not likely to find a company that will take the time to build the file unless they see a sizable market. While 3D printing eliminates the mold making process, it still takes design time.
More likely it will take someone building a design in there spare time and sharing the file.
That brings up the problem of printing in the required materials, most likely abs and or nylon. Both materials are hard to print in and require higher than entry level equipment. Also printing environments are stricter for nylon and abs.
I would see it happening like this.
Someone disassembles a good one and duplicates those in a CAD program.
(hopefully they look at common failures and design them out)
Runs prototypes in PLA for form and fit.
Creates the STL file and makes it available.
Files are sent to a replicator for build in the appropriate material.
Generally in the 3D community, .stl files are shared free.
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We`re on the right track with this 3D printed parts concept. All we need is a correct .stl file and we can simply have them printed through Shapeways or even at home with any extrusion printer with ABS filament. Considering it seems every power seat in these cars go eventually this would be a fantastic solution to the problem. I`ve tested ABS prints in the past and it`s incredibly strong and will hold up no problem.
If anyone knows someone familiar with 3D printers and can scan or 3D model their existing seat transmission`s plastic housing and even the gears and provide an STL file we`d be set.
I`ve done research on this and it seems the seat track restoration companies simply made their own version and charge ridiculous amounts including your old core to swap out the part. Not a very sporting business model if you ask me.
As far as opening the transmission it`s simply a matter of punching and drilling out the rivets. Nuts and bolts can be used to seal the unit back up afterwards.
If anyone knows someone familiar with 3D printers and can scan or 3D model their existing seat transmission`s plastic housing and even the gears and provide an STL file we`d be set.
I`ve done research on this and it seems the seat track restoration companies simply made their own version and charge ridiculous amounts including your old core to swap out the part. Not a very sporting business model if you ask me.
As far as opening the transmission it`s simply a matter of punching and drilling out the rivets. Nuts and bolts can be used to seal the unit back up afterwards.
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Seat Track Repair/Replacement
for TorchTarga94: On the conversion of your drivers seat to manual were you able to use the existing seat track to accommodate the manual seat hardware, fittings, handle or
did you have to purchase a set new, rebuilt.,refurbished? My newly acquired '86 C4 has a manual passenger seat. The electric/bladder fitted drivers
seat installed has major electric issues. I am up against a time constraint to get the Red Beauty inspected and the drivers seat electrics are shot.
Having a parts source would be greatly appreciated.
did you have to purchase a set new, rebuilt.,refurbished? My newly acquired '86 C4 has a manual passenger seat. The electric/bladder fitted drivers
seat installed has major electric issues. I am up against a time constraint to get the Red Beauty inspected and the drivers seat electrics are shot.
Having a parts source would be greatly appreciated.
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I will be disassembling one of my seat tracks this spring to have the plastic components measured for 3D printing. Don't bother buying replacement tracks as they are all broken or soon will be.
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Seat Track Replacement Parts
The big problem with seat tracks is the plastic spacers used at the end of each gear set. If you take the track apart, you'll see that they have broken or fractured, which has caused misalignment and subsequent breakage of the gears themselves. To remedy the problem, a friend and I came up with a set of three metal replacement spacers that work like a charm. I've had mine in for three years and the seats still work great. Incidentally, the three spacers are not the same size, so our metal set is color-coded to enable proper installation, front to back. If any of you are interested, we'll sell the three-spacer set for $85 ($160 for two sets), which includes shipping. Let me know by responding to this post.
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The big problem with seat tracks is the plastic spacers used at the end of each gear set. If you take the track apart, you'll see that they have broken or fractured, which has caused misalignment and subsequent breakage of the gears themselves. To remedy the problem, a friend and I came up with a set of three metal replacement spacers that work like a charm. I've had mine in for three years and the seats still work great. Incidentally, the three spacers are not the same size, so our metal set is color-coded to enable proper installation, front to back. If any of you are interested, we'll sell the three-spacer set for $85 ($160 for two sets), which includes shipping. Let me know by responding to this post.
A few years ago there was a guy who sold a kit which included the case and a set of nuts & bolts that replaced the rivets. He has disappeared in the mean time. It was a good setup that I used in the previous car. That really what I would like to find.
Also makes you wonder where the rebuilders get their parts. If they can get them, we should be able to as well. Rebuilding the seat transmission is not rocket science.
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id be interested too
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Seat Track Repair Follow-Up
Our metal seat track gear spacers won't "give," and therefore rhere's no forward and back motion of the gear sets themselves, which in turn places substantially less pressure on the plastic framework. As I said in my original post, I've used my set for three years now, and that's with a gear set that was four or five years old at the time. For ease of repair, I used screws rather than rivets on my seat tracks. This would allow faster disassembly if I had to adjust a track, but this has not been necessary so far. I also used liberal amounts of Amsoil Gear Lube on the gears themselves, not that this was anything other than a personal decision.
These spacers are the result of a friend and I deciding that someone ought to make them, so we went ahead and did it. We are not a company, and therefore pretty operate on a cash-only basis, meaning no CODs and no PayPal. Please allow personal checks two weeks to clear. If you're interested in pursuing this, you can contact me via email at lapswimmer916@gmail.com.
These spacers are the result of a friend and I deciding that someone ought to make them, so we went ahead and did it. We are not a company, and therefore pretty operate on a cash-only basis, meaning no CODs and no PayPal. Please allow personal checks two weeks to clear. If you're interested in pursuing this, you can contact me via email at lapswimmer916@gmail.com.
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No sir, my stock power seats in my 94' were still manual control seat backs so it didn't matter. The only function I lost was backward or forward tilt of the seat base which didn't matter to me. I'm glad I did the manual seat conversion. No more seat rock, and my seats stay in one position all the time.
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I used the center cubby section of a non-power seat equipped car. I do not have the part numbers. A member on here reached out to me and offered it up since he converted to power seats.
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I have a seat track and transmission if you want it. The forward reverse gear is bad and that is why I changed it out. If you want it PM me your address and I will ship it to you.