Vibration after gear change
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Vibration after gear change
I had a Dana 44 rebuilt with 3:54 gears and installed in my 1992 automatic. Replacing the 2:59 Dana 36. It now has a pulsing vibration at 70 mph and gets worse the faster I go. I’m at a loss to what is causing it and the guy who built it and put it in doesn’t know either. Any ideas what it could be?
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I had a Dana 44 rebuilt with 3:54 gears and installed in my 1992 automatic. Replacing the 2:59 Dana 36. It now has a pulsing vibration at 70 mph and gets worse the faster I go. I’m at a loss to what is causing it and the guy who built it and put it in doesn’t know either. Any ideas what it could be?
#3
Setting up gears is a job for someone who really understands differentials....there are shims/proper backlash, etc. etc. Hopefully it was installed correctly.
Although what was mentioned above may the culprit as well. I would assume you also changed the batwings and half shafts as well. Those could be a problem (u-joints) and what was mentioned; the driveshaft as well.
Although what was mentioned above may the culprit as well. I would assume you also changed the batwings and half shafts as well. Those could be a problem (u-joints) and what was mentioned; the driveshaft as well.
#4
You most likely needed to change the slip-yoke from your A4 to a D44 shorter drive-shaft OR you used a D44 drive-shaft from an early 4+. If you transferred your A4 slip-yoke to a shorter D44 shaft you need to check the dampner on the A4 slip-yoke and it should have been balanced before use. Make sure the u-joints are seated correctly into the pinion flange, at the short-axles and at the spindle flanges.
Regardless the combination used the drive-shaft should have been balanced and assembled with new u-joints.
Regardless the combination used the drive-shaft should have been balanced and assembled with new u-joints.
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It has new ujoints and the slip yoke is the one from my automatic. The ds is the shorter one from a manual transmission. I bought it online and didn’t have it balanced. There were no dents or other signs of damage so I figured it was ok. The guy who built the differential does it for a living. All standard transmissions, transfer cases and front and rear 4x4 differentials. Lots of mustang and Camaros too. I don’t believe it is the work he did. He just doesn’t do any kind of driveshaft work. Or driveline balancing. There is a specialty shop 2 hours away that custom fabricates all kinds of drivelines but who knows what that would cost $$$?
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What WVZR-1 has described is exactly what I had done to my 95 A4 when I replaced my Dana 36 for a 44. You should get the drive shaft re-balanced. If the place is several hours away give them a call and ask what they charge.
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I have, however, wondered if I installed the DS using the correct orientation. (I've tried reversing it a couple of times). By now (29yrs), I probably should replace the other u-joint (OK...BOTH THIS TIME)...and see what happens.
If balanced, will mounting orientation matter?
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Does this mean anyone swapping u-joints needs to balance their DS? I've had a mystery shimey...that comes/goes above 65-70mph for years. I replaced one of the two u-joints in 2010 but never considered the need for balance.
I have, however, wondered if I installed the DS using the correct orientation. (I've tried reversing it a couple of times). By now (29yrs), I probably should replace the other u-joint (OK...BOTH THIS TIME)...and see what happens.
If balanced, will mounting orientation matter?
I have, however, wondered if I installed the DS using the correct orientation. (I've tried reversing it a couple of times). By now (29yrs), I probably should replace the other u-joint (OK...BOTH THIS TIME)...and see what happens.
If balanced, will mounting orientation matter?
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It has new ujoints and the slip yoke is the one from my automatic. The ds is the shorter one from a manual transmission. I bought it online and didn’t have it balanced. There were no dents or other signs of damage so I figured it was ok. The guy who built the differential does it for a living. All standard transmissions, transfer cases and front and rear 4x4 differentials. Lots of mustang and Camaros too. I don’t believe it is the work he did. He just doesn’t do any kind of driveshaft work. Or driveline balancing. There is a specialty shop 2 hours away that custom fabricates all kinds of drivelines but who knows what that would cost $$$?
I know two fellows that if they do 2 u-joints in a performance drive-shaft application won't do it (with a guarantee) unless it's balanced.
Last edited by WVZR-1; 02-11-2018 at 07:31 PM.
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First things first: get under there and make sure every bolt for the diff and batwing is tight, as well as trailing arms. Also, make sure the joints in the halfshafts are good.
Does it only do this in 6th gear? Does it only do this under power, or also when coasting? If it does it when coasting, does it do it when it's also out of gear (or the clutch pedal is pushed in)? If the issue is a balance problem, then the vibration should happen at the same road speeds regardless of what gear you're in or whether you're on the throttle or not. If it only does it when you're on the throttle, I'd be inclined to suspect one of the six u-joints.
Does it only do this in 6th gear? Does it only do this under power, or also when coasting? If it does it when coasting, does it do it when it's also out of gear (or the clutch pedal is pushed in)? If the issue is a balance problem, then the vibration should happen at the same road speeds regardless of what gear you're in or whether you're on the throttle or not. If it only does it when you're on the throttle, I'd be inclined to suspect one of the six u-joints.
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It has new ujoints and the slip yoke is the one from my automatic. The ds is the shorter one from a manual transmission. I bought it online and didn’t have it balanced. There were no dents or other signs of damage so I figured it was ok. The guy who built the differential does it for a living. All standard transmissions, transfer cases and front and rear 4x4 differentials. Lots of mustang and Camaros too. I don’t believe it is the work he did. He just doesn’t do any kind of driveshaft work. Or driveline balancing. There is a specialty shop 2 hours away that custom fabricates all kinds of drivelines but who knows what that would cost $$$?
The Rear was too old, and too complicated according to them.
I am not positive anymore, but I thought there were some slight differences in the cases from an old standard 9", or 10 Bolt, etc,.
A shop by me charges $300 to change gears on a mustang, and $1200 for the c4.
bought D44 and never looked back.
hopefully there is no difference in installs and if there are hopefully there is no damage being done.
Did your mechanic suggest a "break in"?
Last edited by pologreen1; 02-14-2018 at 01:27 PM.