CMiller95

I saw this on Coleman Racing's website today.

http://www.colemanracing.com/Hub-Ada...tte-P6289.aspx

-Colton

SDF

Wish that would have been available back when I was racing a C4!! Coleman Racing makes some quality components!

1984Z51auto

What happens to the ABS sensor on the OE hub?

CMiller95

I assume it is no longer retained since this is more focused towards racing

Klondike

When the order says (1) does that mean 1 kit (pair for both fronts) or 1 side?

MatthewMiller

I just sent them an email to ask them the questions in posts 3 and 5. I will let you know what they say. I suspect there is no provision for the stock ABS sensor and ring on this - it is certainly not shown in the pictures. I also suspect one "kit" at $506 is for one corner of the car - that is, it would cost $1012 to do both front hubs.

WVZR-1

I don't believe these are particularly new and there's no provisions for ABS. They chose the '91+ specific because of the way the '91+ is assembled with ABS captured in the hub assembly. If a person wanted to use these on '88 - '90 they would need '91+ spindles.

I have a pair of '91+ spindles if someone were interested in these.

They do similar for the F-body also.


NO ABS IS POSSIBLE ...................

ChumpVette

Nobody here is going to pay 500 bucks per bearing.

MatthewMiller

Someone who does a lot of track events might.

ChumpVette

I'm running endurance events with my C4's, and have yet to need to replace bearings.

Plus I like retaining the ABS, keeps others from flat spotting the tires.

MatthewMiller

Yeah, that's a real problem with this Coleman option. It would keep me from buying it.

ex-x-fire

I wonder if you could build one yourself using a trailer spindle kit.

CMiller95

There's basically 3 options right now
1.) Factory/Camaro bearing that most people destroy at track event with racing tires: $100 a side w/ 3 year warranty (SKFs on RockAuto)
2.) Coleman Racing's option which goes to a Timken Roller Bearing setup which is much more stout but they lose the ABS capability. Although the bearing are cheap to replace after the initial purchase. FOR RACING ONLY, unless you don't want ABS on the street: $500 a side
3.) Hoosier Engineering's option which does the same as above but retained the factory hub idea and also retains ABS. This is the best all around option but it costs $700 A side.

The reason someone will pay this type of money is if a wheel bearing fails on the track, the rotor run out as a result will spread the brake pads. Then when you go to brake for the next turn the pedal goes to floor as it has to close that new gap first. Or if they just get tired of replacing them every weekend.

CMiller95

If you could set it up in such a way that it retains the factory offset to the rotor you could. You'd also have to find a hub for it.

PatternDayTrader

Lol ... sounds like a pretty good reason.

rklessdriver

I wonder which spindle stub they use.... early Camaro or ???

BrianCunningham

interesting

wonder if a ring could be made so the rear sensor could be run on the front

MatthewMiller

I got a reply back from Glenn Myers at Coleman. He verified that the ABS ring cannot be adapted to the hub, so no OEM ABS is feasible. He also verified that the purchase price is for one hub and bearing, so you would need to buy two to kits to do both front wheel hubs on a car.

RandomTask

Very well timed thread!


I wish! I go through a set of autozone crap every race. . .I'm going to try Timkens on the rear this time and the cheapo's up front.

Also, I switched the car to '96 suspension/uprights. The '84 bearings will physically mount, but they get rotated by 90* (the long side of the rectangle mounted horizontally on the '96 vs vertically on the '84.) Since the '96 has the ABS sensor (w/ pigtail) built in, the bearings are much more expensive. . . I'm wondering if this is going to be an issue (although I don't think it is).

Small item is I'll also have to fab a plate to cover the bearing from the backside. ..

Anyone done this?

tdereggi

I would, if it fit an 85.