Any gizmos to have the cooling fans come on earlier?
#1
Zen Vet Master Level VII
Thread Starter
Any gizmos to have the cooling fans come on earlier?
Does anyone have a solution to having the engine cooling fans come on "earlier" than the factory specifications?
I live in Texas and summer is fast approaching and I'd like to see if I can get the fans to come on about 200-205-ish. I realize the engine are designed to run at 225-230 but I've never been a fan.
I put in a new lower degree fan temp sensors on my C4 and now the auxiliary comes on at 205 instead of 228. The car, AC and owner are much happier so I wondering if C5s have something similar?
Thanks!
I live in Texas and summer is fast approaching and I'd like to see if I can get the fans to come on about 200-205-ish. I realize the engine are designed to run at 225-230 but I've never been a fan.
I put in a new lower degree fan temp sensors on my C4 and now the auxiliary comes on at 205 instead of 228. The car, AC and owner are much happier so I wondering if C5s have something similar?
Thanks!
#2
Melting Slicks
This is probably a C5 Tech section question, but I suspect the answer lies in the ECM.
#3
Team Owner
Lots of good information about the C4 cooling system here: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...peratures.html
As long as the radiator is in good condition and there is nothing trapped between the tubes and fins of the radiator and A/C condensor or dirt and debris between the two components, the car should survive summer heat.
As you noted, the C4 cooling system was designed to handle higher coolant temps and that was done to reduce emissions. Test mule C4's were driven at the GM Proving Grounds in AZ in temps of 115 degrees F and higher. GM spent a lot of time and money to make sure the C4 had a good cooling system.
Also, make sure that the air dams below the nose of the car are in place and in good condition. C4's are "bottom-breathers" and those air dams are designed to direct air up into the condensor and radiator.
It a good idea to flush and refill the coolant every 2-3 years with a good quality green coolant and distilled water. Make sure the radiator hoses are in good shape. Old, weak hoses can collapse and reduce the flow of coolant.
As long as the radiator is in good condition and there is nothing trapped between the tubes and fins of the radiator and A/C condensor or dirt and debris between the two components, the car should survive summer heat.
As you noted, the C4 cooling system was designed to handle higher coolant temps and that was done to reduce emissions. Test mule C4's were driven at the GM Proving Grounds in AZ in temps of 115 degrees F and higher. GM spent a lot of time and money to make sure the C4 had a good cooling system.
Also, make sure that the air dams below the nose of the car are in place and in good condition. C4's are "bottom-breathers" and those air dams are designed to direct air up into the condensor and radiator.
It a good idea to flush and refill the coolant every 2-3 years with a good quality green coolant and distilled water. Make sure the radiator hoses are in good shape. Old, weak hoses can collapse and reduce the flow of coolant.
#4
Zen Vet Master Level VII
Thread Starter
I meant to post this in the C5 tech section but got fat fingers.
This what happens when you have two different generations and are hopping between forum sections.
#5
Melting Slicks
Geesh... my wife is correct; I AM an idiot.
I meant to post this in the C5 tech section but got fat fingers.
This what happens when you have two different generations and are hopping between forum sections.
Been there, done that.
I meant to post this in the C5 tech section but got fat fingers.
This what happens when you have two different generations and are hopping between forum sections.
Been there, done that.
Last edited by HAD2HAV2; 04-04-2018 at 06:55 PM.
#7
Melting Slicks
The fans on the C5 are controlled by the PCM. There is a kit made by SAC City Corvette that has a manual version that you can turn on the high speed fan:
http://www.saccitycorvette.com/HardWireCoolit.html
You also can get someone to tune your car to change the temps the fans come on.
http://www.saccitycorvette.com/HardWireCoolit.html
You also can get someone to tune your car to change the temps the fans come on.
#8
Racer
The fans on the C5 are controlled by the PCM. There is a kit made by SAC City Corvette that has a manual version that you can turn on the high speed fan:
http://www.saccitycorvette.com/HardWireCoolit.html
You also can get someone to tune your car to change the temps the fans come on.
http://www.saccitycorvette.com/HardWireCoolit.html
You also can get someone to tune your car to change the temps the fans come on.
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Kalel152 (04-07-2018)
#9
Safety Car
If you are having trouble keeping your car cool or just want to see a bit lower temperatures you might look at the following information.
Your cooling system is probably like most with the 16 lb radiator cap. This combined with anti-freeze protects you to roughly 260 Degrees F.
If you remove the pressure cap the car will boil over near the 212 degree mark.
One common misconception is that Anti-freeze helps your car stay cool, some people even run more than 50%. I saw one guy who had overheating issues in his Japanese car and we found that he had changed the anti-freeze to PURE anti-freeze(A/F). That caused the car to overheat because anti-freeze does little to cool your car down. It does have good lubricants in it which help the water pump seal last a few years.
In Texas I doubt you see below freezing as often as we do in the northern States. Your anti freeze ratio should be lower, as low as you can go without risking damage from freezing.
Be sure to replace the radiator cap every five years or so, the springs wear out. A faulty cap will cause your car to run hotter if it can't hold 16 pounds pressure.
Red Line Synthetic Oil makes something called "Water Wetter" and I have been using it in both of my Corvettes with great success.
according to their web site this is how it works.
"These products include a unique agent that lowers temperatures by reducing or eliminating bubbles or vapor barrier that form on hot metal surfaces"
This is taken from the Red Line website:
https://www.redlineoil.com/waterwetter
I am using less than 20% A/F, a bottle of Water Wetter and distilled water in my radiators. I still use the 16 lb. radiator cap and my engines run nice and cool. I replace the radiator caps every five years as I also flush everything on that same schedule.
If your radiator is a few years old (and Aluminum)you might try cleaning it with "Coil Cleaner". Coil Cleaner is usually a mild phosphoric acid that takes the corrosion off of aluminum coils. It is used on home AC units as preventative maintenance. It will make your radiator nice and clean if you have an aluminum radiator. I also clean the AC condenser with it as it is aluminum.
I don't drive either Corvette in the really cold weather so the need for freeze protection is minimal.
I hope that this little bit of information can help you keep your Beautiful Corvette cruising all summer long without issues. Good Luck!
Your cooling system is probably like most with the 16 lb radiator cap. This combined with anti-freeze protects you to roughly 260 Degrees F.
If you remove the pressure cap the car will boil over near the 212 degree mark.
One common misconception is that Anti-freeze helps your car stay cool, some people even run more than 50%. I saw one guy who had overheating issues in his Japanese car and we found that he had changed the anti-freeze to PURE anti-freeze(A/F). That caused the car to overheat because anti-freeze does little to cool your car down. It does have good lubricants in it which help the water pump seal last a few years.
In Texas I doubt you see below freezing as often as we do in the northern States. Your anti freeze ratio should be lower, as low as you can go without risking damage from freezing.
Be sure to replace the radiator cap every five years or so, the springs wear out. A faulty cap will cause your car to run hotter if it can't hold 16 pounds pressure.
Red Line Synthetic Oil makes something called "Water Wetter" and I have been using it in both of my Corvettes with great success.
according to their web site this is how it works.
"These products include a unique agent that lowers temperatures by reducing or eliminating bubbles or vapor barrier that form on hot metal surfaces"
This is taken from the Red Line website:
https://www.redlineoil.com/waterwetter
I am using less than 20% A/F, a bottle of Water Wetter and distilled water in my radiators. I still use the 16 lb. radiator cap and my engines run nice and cool. I replace the radiator caps every five years as I also flush everything on that same schedule.
If your radiator is a few years old (and Aluminum)you might try cleaning it with "Coil Cleaner". Coil Cleaner is usually a mild phosphoric acid that takes the corrosion off of aluminum coils. It is used on home AC units as preventative maintenance. It will make your radiator nice and clean if you have an aluminum radiator. I also clean the AC condenser with it as it is aluminum.
I don't drive either Corvette in the really cold weather so the need for freeze protection is minimal.
I hope that this little bit of information can help you keep your Beautiful Corvette cruising all summer long without issues. Good Luck!
#11
Racer
#12
Race Director
#13
Advanced
Yes, but will need a Program such as Tuner CATS and the temp is set in Celsius so you need to figure out what temp you want them to come on and off and convert the number to Celsius.
#14
Instructor
D.
#15
Racer
#16
Team Owner
Pro Mechanic
Actually 50/50 mix boils at closer to 225F.
Sorry, but water pump seals do no require any kind of "lubricant" to last a few years. That is LORE. My boat's water pump is proof of that; 1000 hours and 26 years old....it's never been "lubricated" in it's life.
FYI, My 'Vette runs fine and cool in 100+F temps. I've even dual driven auto crossed it in 100*F and engine temp never got above 215 (w/the AC on). I use plain old 50/50 ELC and decent PM.
FYI, My 'Vette runs fine and cool in 100+F temps. I've even dual driven auto crossed it in 100*F and engine temp never got above 215 (w/the AC on). I use plain old 50/50 ELC and decent PM.
#17
Race Director
FWIW, TunerPro cooling fan tables are in Farenheit. Two sets -- one with A/C on...the other OFF.