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new C4 'teflon coated' hub washers looking scrappy
Brand new, but the teflon has deteriorated right off. Should I order another pair...? Is this how they should look? A good portion of the surface is bare metal.
I'd like to ditch those obnoxious sounds in one swoop rather than tearing into it twice.
Brand new, but the teflon has deteriorated right off. Should I order another pair...? Is this how they should look? A good portion of the surface is bare metal.
I'd like to ditch those obnoxious sounds in one swoop rather than tearing into it twice.
I don't think it is the look of them as it is they need to take up a little space , they should work fine.
I've read of some who put anti-seize on the washers.
I did that when I replaced mine last year, but they were in a lot better condition (the ones I bought) than those. The coating was complete on both sides.
Lighting can make a big difference in appearance. I have some that are new and from one angle with the light reflecting on them they look scarred up, but from another angle they look a nice uniform dark gray color.
The teflon is soft enough that it can show a mark from simply dragging a fingernail across it. I don't think doing that damages the use of the washer, but it makes it look quite different.
It is tough to know how bad they need to be to create a problem (on mine it was a "clicking" noise once in a while).
In the picture below it shows brand new ones at the top, used ones that had about 25k miles in the middle, and the bottom was about 135k miles. None of these washers made any noise.
Note that on both pictures they are the same five washers just from different angles. Also note that the bottom washers are actually only one washer but photoshopped to show both sides of it.
Yes you are correct the lip should face out. FSM mentions nothing about greasing washer. Because of that I would think it goes in dry but it's your call if you want to put anything on it. I put a thin layer of synthetic wheel bearing grease on the washer since I re-used the old one.
Yes you are correct the lip should face out. FSM mentions nothing about greasing washer. Because of that I would think it goes in dry but it's your call if you want to put anything on it. I put a thin layer of synthetic wheel bearing grease on the washer since I re-used the old one.
The washer is actually nothing more than a spacer. Any movement at the washer means it's torqued wrong, probably from age. But when there is movement... you can either have smooth metal/lube/metal - or dry corrosion metal-to-metal crunch.
I'm not sure if there are issues with adding lube, but I know the issue of not adding lube -- and that loud POP is a thrill-kill.
I'm lubed up - spline, washer and all, and torqued to 180 (book says 165, lots of forum posts about 200). I went from POP CRACK SNAP to smooth-as-butter.
But I'm no expert. I haven't really wrenched since my 1970 SS I had in the 90's.
The washer is actually nothing more than a spacer. Any movement at the washer means it's torqued wrong, probably from age. But when there is movement... you can either have smooth metal/lube/metal - or dry corrosion metal-to-metal crunch.
I'm not sure if there are issues with adding lube, but I know the issue of not adding lube -- and that loud POP is a thrill-kill.
I'm lubed up - spline, washer and all, and torqued to 180 (book says 165, lots of forum posts about 200). I went from POP CRACK SNAP to smooth-as-butter.
But I'm no expert. I haven't really wrenched since my 1970 SS I had in the 90's.
I forgot to add that I also added some wheel bearing grease to the splines and the outside washer when I reassembled. Thanks for reminding me.
07-26-2015, 01:36 AM
new C4 'teflon coated' hub washers looking scrappy
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