Fuel Pump Choice
06-09-2018, 10:59 PM
#1
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Fuel Pump Choice
I noticed the fuel pump is getting loud. In fact I never really heard it before today. Coming home I could hear it humming.
Since it's quite likely the original pump, and the pump is one of those things that will leave you sitting on the side of the road, I was thinking about swapping it out with a Racetronix kit just for Preventive maintenance.
The question is 180 LPH or 255 LPH. Is there anything gained by the 255.
Car is stock 92 LT1, not tracked or raced.
Since it's quite likely the original pump, and the pump is one of those things that will leave you sitting on the side of the road, I was thinking about swapping it out with a Racetronix kit just for Preventive maintenance.
The question is 180 LPH or 255 LPH. Is there anything gained by the 255.
Car is stock 92 LT1, not tracked or raced.
06-09-2018, 11:33 PM
#2
Race Director
Holy sht I just went through a whole ordeal with racetronix. They don't know what they sell. If you want to buy from them, then do so. But I bought a 255 pump from them. The first in tank harness messed up where it connects to the fuel pump. Wiring was backwards as well. They sent me another, free. OK cool. Wiring was backwards still. I've read others on here switched it. I don't see how they did. But these guys are smarter than me. Look at your bulkhead, mine had small burns on the pins. A racetronix pump will burn the pins even faster than factory.
If you buy the 255 pump, the little rubber seat that the pump sits on has to be cut, where the purge hole is on the pump. If you don't make the cut, the car will not start.
I ended up using a stock pump. I'm happy I did. No performance gains to be had unless you need the extra fuel. With that said, racetronix was of no help to me. But they do include some cool stainless bolts, new gasket and good filter.
If you buy the 255 pump, the little rubber seat that the pump sits on has to be cut, where the purge hole is on the pump. If you don't make the cut, the car will not start.
I ended up using a stock pump. I'm happy I did. No performance gains to be had unless you need the extra fuel. With that said, racetronix was of no help to me. But they do include some cool stainless bolts, new gasket and good filter.
Last edited by 1993C4LT1; 06-09-2018 at 11:34 PM.
06-10-2018, 03:06 AM
#3
Team Owner
I noticed the fuel pump is getting loud. In fact I never really heard it before today. Coming home I could hear it humming.
Since it's quite likely the original pump, and the pump is one of those things that will leave you sitting on the side of the road, I was thinking about swapping it out with a Racetronix kit just for Preventive maintenance.
The question is 180 LPH or 255 LPH. Is there anything gained by the 255.
Car is stock 92 LT1, not tracked or raced.
Since it's quite likely the original pump, and the pump is one of those things that will leave you sitting on the side of the road, I was thinking about swapping it out with a Racetronix kit just for Preventive maintenance.
The question is 180 LPH or 255 LPH. Is there anything gained by the 255.
Car is stock 92 LT1, not tracked or raced.
As far as 180 or 255, unless you really need it, I doubt it makes a difference. OTOH, maybe a larger one just in case? Can go either way.
Last edited by aklim; 06-10-2018 at 03:07 AM.
06-10-2018, 10:37 AM
#4
Zen Vet Master Level VII
06-10-2018, 04:35 PM
#5
Fuel pumps? I believe there's much to be learned about manufacturers. How many are just 're-boxed' with specific branding. TI maybe deserves a 'read'.
https://aftermarket.tiautomotive.com
The majority of the TI pumps are US made. A person doesn't dare even think 'all' as that could change tomorrow.
TI has done Walbro for years (they mention decades) but now market their stuff directly.
https://aftermarket.tiautomotive.com
The majority of the TI pumps are US made. A person doesn't dare even think 'all' as that could change tomorrow.
TI has done Walbro for years (they mention decades) but now market their stuff directly.
Last edited by WVZR-1; 06-10-2018 at 04:37 PM.
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Red 91 (06-11-2018)
06-10-2018, 04:36 PM
#6
Zen Vet Master Level VII
Get a factory spec pump (I agree with Delphi) install and don't worry.
Last edited by billschroeder5842; 06-10-2018 at 04:36 PM.
06-10-2018, 09:54 PM
#8
Team Owner
Yes and it is enforced by your fuel pressure regulator. Regulator will "close" to build up pressure to a set point and "open" to release pressure past a set point. Bigger motor needs more volume which the bigger pumps provide.
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HAD2HAV2 (06-11-2018)
06-14-2018, 06:33 AM
#11
What pump brand/part # did you end up buying? Local purchase I'd think?
Last edited by WVZR-1; 06-14-2018 at 06:44 AM.
06-14-2018, 01:20 PM
#12
Instructor
Holy sht I just went through a whole ordeal with racetronix. They don't know what they sell. If you want to buy from them, then do so. But I bought a 255 pump from them. The first in tank harness messed up where it connects to the fuel pump. Wiring was backwards as well. They sent me another, free. OK cool. Wiring was backwards still. I've read others on here switched it. I don't see how they did. But these guys are smarter than me. Look at your bulkhead, mine had small burns on the pins. A racetronix pump will burn the pins even faster than factory.
If you buy the 255 pump, the little rubber seat that the pump sits on has to be cut, where the purge hole is on the pump. If you don't make the cut, the car will not start.
I ended up using a stock pump. I'm happy I did. No performance gains to be had unless you need the extra fuel. With that said, racetronix was of no help to me. But they do include some cool stainless bolts, new gasket and good filter.
If you buy the 255 pump, the little rubber seat that the pump sits on has to be cut, where the purge hole is on the pump. If you don't make the cut, the car will not start.
I ended up using a stock pump. I'm happy I did. No performance gains to be had unless you need the extra fuel. With that said, racetronix was of no help to me. But they do include some cool stainless bolts, new gasket and good filter.
06-14-2018, 08:03 PM
#13
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
In the past 5/16 is mentioned. If you use Gates 27083 or 27093 as a spec reference you should end up with correct product. Your pump likely came with a hose that you could use as a matching inside dimension.
What pump brand/part # did you end up buying? Local purchase I'd think?
What pump brand/part # did you end up buying? Local purchase I'd think?
06-14-2018, 08:37 PM
#15
http://www.tgidirect.com/sqlimages/d...-pdfs/1344.pdf
06-14-2018, 09:51 PM
#16
Melting Slicks
06-15-2018, 10:56 AM
#17
Drifting
[QUOTE=ihatebarkingdogs;1597376838]I doubt your pump is original; they just don't last this long. But the increase in noise may be nothing more than its running faster because the filter has become partially restricted. (Yes, pumps run FASTER when they don't have to pump as much volume). If you do change the pump, I'd be inclined to replace it with the same brand as is in it now because you have some idea of the reliability./QUOTE]
My '90 with 50K+ still has the original pump. I've never even heard it. What are early signs of impending failure?
A grease pit jockey pulled it out of the tank when the Multecs were starting to fail, and put it back when it wasn't the problem. That was 6 years ago so I guess he didn't screw it up....but??
My '90 with 50K+ still has the original pump. I've never even heard it. What are early signs of impending failure?
A grease pit jockey pulled it out of the tank when the Multecs were starting to fail, and put it back when it wasn't the problem. That was 6 years ago so I guess he didn't screw it up....but??
06-15-2018, 07:42 PM
#18
Safety Car
Hello BelairBryan!
Most street driven Corvettes probably don't need the higher volume of fuel that these aftermarket pump are capable of supplying.
The 255 Liters per hour rating is capable of larger volumes of fuel at the pressure set by the regulator. If your car doesn't need the gas then it goes back to the tank via the return line The pressure regulator sets the pressure and the 255 pump just sends more fuel than the 180 pump at the same pressure.
If installing the higher flow pump requires electrical modifications I would be careful in your decision, can it be undone? If your car really needs the extra fuel then by all means buy the 255 pump from Racetronix or whomever and make the proper changes.
I have the standard pump from NAPA and it works fine. I also bought a new assembly that holds the fuel pump with the new fuel gauge sender from Rock Auto.
If I were doing anything with my fuel pump currently I would be considering purchasing the new HOLLEY "HydraMat" to put in place of the silly little sock on the fuel pump intake side. The HydraMat is incredible stuff and would really be helpful with our older Corvettes.
K.I.S.S. Bryan
The last "S" stands for silly, please do not be offended. This is something in which I really try to apply in my life.
Most street driven Corvettes probably don't need the higher volume of fuel that these aftermarket pump are capable of supplying.
The 255 Liters per hour rating is capable of larger volumes of fuel at the pressure set by the regulator. If your car doesn't need the gas then it goes back to the tank via the return line The pressure regulator sets the pressure and the 255 pump just sends more fuel than the 180 pump at the same pressure.
If installing the higher flow pump requires electrical modifications I would be careful in your decision, can it be undone? If your car really needs the extra fuel then by all means buy the 255 pump from Racetronix or whomever and make the proper changes.
I have the standard pump from NAPA and it works fine. I also bought a new assembly that holds the fuel pump with the new fuel gauge sender from Rock Auto.
If I were doing anything with my fuel pump currently I would be considering purchasing the new HOLLEY "HydraMat" to put in place of the silly little sock on the fuel pump intake side. The HydraMat is incredible stuff and would really be helpful with our older Corvettes.
K.I.S.S. Bryan
The last "S" stands for silly, please do not be offended. This is something in which I really try to apply in my life.
06-22-2018, 08:33 PM
#19
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Well looks like I'll have time to do this in the morning. All the parts are here. Advance Auto wanted 47 bucks for the tank seal. Oreilly 13. Autozone couldn't find it.
Anyone know the wrench sizes for the fuel filter? Plan on changing it at the same time.
Anyone know the wrench sizes for the fuel filter? Plan on changing it at the same time.
06-23-2018, 03:59 PM
#20
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Well it's all done. The fuel strainer crumbled when I took it off and the output of the fuel filter was bent. Other than those no real problems.
A couple things I did find out that I'll pass along.
The Delphi pump I bought came with a piece of hose and clamps to eliminate the pulsator. So no need to buy extra fuel line.
The bolts have o-rings under the washers Size 008 work nicely.
Thought for a minute the pump wasn't working. Couldn't here it at all. But had pressure on the fuel rail.
Took it for a drive and it pulled strong to 5500.
A couple things I did find out that I'll pass along.
The Delphi pump I bought came with a piece of hose and clamps to eliminate the pulsator. So no need to buy extra fuel line.
The bolts have o-rings under the washers Size 008 work nicely.
Thought for a minute the pump wasn't working. Couldn't here it at all. But had pressure on the fuel rail.
Took it for a drive and it pulled strong to 5500.