1991 corvette 383 stoker needs cam
11-07-2018, 10:39 AM
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11-07-2018, 11:21 AM
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I wish I had an encyclopedic knowledge of the parts out there like some others do. That said, I looked up your quoted cam and there are two interesting things about. First, the LSA on the Lunati site is 112, not 110. Also, their advertised duration is not as high as I was expecting: only 278/288. For a 383 with stock heads, that might not be a bad choice. It's clearly intended for stock heads, given the "Retro-Fit" moniker and the low lift, and they quote a speed range of 2000-6400. I sort of assume they mean that for a 350, so it would be a bit lower for a 383.
If I were you, I'd call Lunati and ask them a few questions. First, tell them your parameters (383, stock heads and valvetrain, could get new t/c, your max desired rpm, etc.), and ask them if this cam makes sense for your build. Will they endorse it for your stock valve springs and rockers? What do they recommend? The other obvious one to consider is the 20120120, which is very close in advertised duration and lift, but significantly less on duration at .050". It would have less overlap and a better idle, but it might be too little to let a 383 breathe above 5000rpm.
If I were you, I'd call Lunati and ask them a few questions. First, tell them your parameters (383, stock heads and valvetrain, could get new t/c, your max desired rpm, etc.), and ask them if this cam makes sense for your build. Will they endorse it for your stock valve springs and rockers? What do they recommend? The other obvious one to consider is the 20120120, which is very close in advertised duration and lift, but significantly less on duration at .050". It would have less overlap and a better idle, but it might be too little to let a 383 breathe above 5000rpm.
11-07-2018, 02:44 PM
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I called Lunati and asked what they thought of my cam choose and the guy said it would be good for my car. He told me to get the 20080131 cam, it is the same thing but will work in my car . He said somthing about the other cam being a retro fit. So I think I’m going to go with the 20080131 cam. What do you think?
As for the actual grind on the lobes, yes they are the same. If Lunati says it will do what you want it to do, then I'd go for it. Make sure you get whatever springs they want you to use with it. They say it "likes a 2200rpm stall converter." That might actually be within your stock t/c's stall speed. You can certainly try it with your stock t/c and see what it's like. You may decide to go a step higher in stall speed after that...or not.
11-07-2018, 04:16 PM
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The dowl pin in the cam drives opti and is a 1/4" longer in the 94 b body and 95-97 LTx engines. If 92-94 F body or Corvette is converted to the gen2 opti the dowl needs to be changed to the 1/4" longer type. The splined early opti engine 92-94 can use the sbc cams. To install " hot cam" in the earlier engine, the longer dowl pin has to be changed to the shorter standard pin.
11-07-2018, 04:50 PM
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I don't see the logic in that 20080131 cam choice or the previous, the duration at 050 is too high. It would basically be undriveable on the street to get to the track. I'd only go that big a cam with a 398 or 409 or something bigger than a 383, and even then I'd treat it as a 100% race car and wouldn't be driving around town, you'd have to run pig rich and the damn thing will probably cut off at every stop light.
I'd go with something more in the realm of 220-230 @050, but not over 240 on the exhaust side. The rec made above of 224/230 is more of what I'm thinking.
In any case its a mismatch for the heads, which can only support about 350hp unported. You can port 113s heavily to make them hold up to 400, but not really any further. This cam choice, plus a 383, warrants 190cc heads at a minimum. Preferably bigger than that, 195-210cc.
A 91 has a wimpy 1500rpm TC, and this combo will need a min of 2200-2400. The dragsters here will probably run more stall than that too, but streetability suffers when you go over 2400-2800 in my opinion, but that is a subjective thing to many.
You will not be able to use slicks with the D36. You must upgrade to D44 rear axle.
You have a lot of stuff that needs to be done here to make this into a race car. Plan this out some more.
I'd go with something more in the realm of 220-230 @050, but not over 240 on the exhaust side. The rec made above of 224/230 is more of what I'm thinking.
In any case its a mismatch for the heads, which can only support about 350hp unported. You can port 113s heavily to make them hold up to 400, but not really any further. This cam choice, plus a 383, warrants 190cc heads at a minimum. Preferably bigger than that, 195-210cc.
A 91 has a wimpy 1500rpm TC, and this combo will need a min of 2200-2400. The dragsters here will probably run more stall than that too, but streetability suffers when you go over 2400-2800 in my opinion, but that is a subjective thing to many.
You will not be able to use slicks with the D36. You must upgrade to D44 rear axle.
You have a lot of stuff that needs to be done here to make this into a race car. Plan this out some more.
11-07-2018, 04:59 PM
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The dowl pin in the cam drives opti and is a 1/4" longer in the 94 b body and 95-97 LTx engines. If 92-94 F body or Corvette is converted to the gen2 opti the dowl needs to be changed to the 1/4" longer type. The splined early opti engine 92-94 can use the sbc cams. To install " hot cam" in the earlier engine, the longer dowl pin has to be changed to the shorter standard pin.
11-07-2018, 06:58 PM
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well the only difference between an L 98 in an LT one is that the LT one had reversed cooling and I didn’t have a distributor and had something else right. Do you think it would really make that much of a difference? I just called Jegs to see what they said about the Cam and they said it would be good for my car
11-07-2018, 07:09 PM
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The cams are similar. The dowl pin could be an issue. The LT1 cam dowl pin for the later 94-97 engine will contact SBC timing cover. Just keep it simple you have a SBC ; specify a cam for a SBC.
11-07-2018, 07:49 PM
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Its easy to cut the dowel pin to make it work. Some cams have a deep hole and you just tap it in deeper. Some LT cams do not have the lobe for a mechanical fuel pump but that should not be an issue here.
11-08-2018, 05:06 PM
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So I think the plan is to get the 20080131 cam with 73943-16 valve springs, everything would just go right in with now problems right? Thank you for all the help iv got from everyone
11-08-2018, 06:04 PM
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Again, for an L98 (which is still a Gen 1 SBC), I think you'd want the 20120121. You can make the 20080131 work, but you would have to mess with the dowel pin on the front to clear the timing cover. I can't think of a good reason to use an LTx cam in an L98 engine. Call Lunati back and verify that, though.
11-08-2018, 09:54 PM
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Again, for an L98 (which is still a Gen 1 SBC), I think you'd want the 20120121. You can make the 20080131 work, but you would have to mess with the dowel pin on the front to clear the timing cover. I can't think of a good reason to use an LTx cam in an L98 engine. Call Lunati back and verify that, though.
11-08-2018, 10:50 PM
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yea I will call them back to verify, but when I called them they told me I should get the 20080131 instead of the 20120121 because the 20120121 is a retrofit cam made for a block that is not a factory hydraulic roller cam and you make the block a hydraulic roller. I will call again but he told me to get the 20080131 over the 20120121 because the 20120121 is a retro fit and he said I would have to change some of the belts and pullies and stuff like that. Idk for sure but that’s just what he told me.
11-09-2018, 07:27 AM
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11-09-2018, 09:57 AM
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I may be missing something, but needing to change belts and pulleys because of a cam change doesn't make sense to me. When you call them, make 100% sure they understand that your engine is an L98 (a Gen 1 SBC), and not an LT1. Let us know what they say, and how it goes.
11-09-2018, 09:59 AM
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Gotcha. So Paccanini called it correctly, and I was missing something. Thanks.
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11-11-2018, 10:16 PM
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I have another question and I didn’t know if you could help me out, how much power do you think my stock l98 aluminum heads can hold? Do you think I would be losing a lot of power because of them? I saw someone said they can only hang 350hp, do you think that how much they can handle?
11-11-2018, 10:19 PM
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I don't see the logic in that 20080131 cam choice or the previous, the duration at 050 is too high. It would basically be undriveable on the street to get to the track. I'd only go that big a cam with a 398 or 409 or something bigger than a 383, and even then I'd treat it as a 100% race car and wouldn't be driving around town, you'd have to run pig rich and the damn thing will probably cut off at every stop light.
I'd go with something more in the realm of 220-230 @050, but not over 240 on the exhaust side. The rec made above of 224/230 is more of what I'm thinking.
In any case its a mismatch for the heads, which can only support about 350hp unported. You can port 113s heavily to make them hold up to 400, but not really any further. This cam choice, plus a 383, warrants 190cc heads at a minimum. Preferably bigger than that, 195-210cc.
A 91 has a wimpy 1500rpm TC, and this combo will need a min of 2200-2400. The dragsters here will probably run more stall than that too, but streetability suffers when you go over 2400-2800 in my opinion, but that is a subjective thing to many.
You will not be able to use slicks with the D36. You must upgrade to D44 rear axle.
You have a lot of stuff that needs to be done here to make this into a race car. Plan this out some more.
I'd go with something more in the realm of 220-230 @050, but not over 240 on the exhaust side. The rec made above of 224/230 is more of what I'm thinking.
In any case its a mismatch for the heads, which can only support about 350hp unported. You can port 113s heavily to make them hold up to 400, but not really any further. This cam choice, plus a 383, warrants 190cc heads at a minimum. Preferably bigger than that, 195-210cc.
A 91 has a wimpy 1500rpm TC, and this combo will need a min of 2200-2400. The dragsters here will probably run more stall than that too, but streetability suffers when you go over 2400-2800 in my opinion, but that is a subjective thing to many.
You will not be able to use slicks with the D36. You must upgrade to D44 rear axle.
You have a lot of stuff that needs to be done here to make this into a race car. Plan this out some more.