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Old 01-11-2019, 09:42 AM
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Ah, but Sir, How many CEOs do you think you can jail until we come to the lowly Farmer Joe Brown? He is a pillar of the community, goes to church every Sunday faithfully, does good work for the community, etc. Because if hiring an illegal, he loses his livelihood and now he is in jail. When he comes out, his farm will have been liquidated and he will now be destitute and on welfare. Think many of you will have the stomach for this? Sure, you'll cheer the CEO that gets tossed in jail. That is the easy part. Wait till it becomes a Mr Nobody and lets see the resolve to treat everyone equal.
It would only take one. For instance, if the hypocrite in the W.H. was jailed for hiring an illegal at Mar-a-lago he and all his fellow wealthy CEOs would cease hiring illegals, period. Corporations are without conscience and will do whatever they can get away with.

Farmer Brown is already screwed by Lumps Trade War.
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:17 AM
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It would only take one. For instance, if the hypocrite in the W.H. was jailed for hiring an illegal at Mar-a-lago he and all his fellow wealthy CEOs would cease hiring illegals, period. Corporations are without conscience and will do whatever they can get away with.

Farmer Brown is already screwed by Lumps Trade War.
Sounds like, and I may be wrong, you are saying that if he is wealthy punish him. If not, give him a pass.

Are we forgetting Zoe Baird?

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Old 01-11-2019, 12:52 PM
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Like him or not he is the President of the United States. How can you have a real discussion if you refer to him as Lump, Dumpf, Orange man, etc.....your bias is showing.

I'm kind of tired of it all, so I went on a News black out....never any good news, only bad. Remember when CNN actually covered world news, like the gulf wars or some natural disasters.....now you can't watch for 5 minutes without a comment about the President

Back to talking about the reason I'm here..C4s!!

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Like him or not he is the President of the United States. How can you have a real discussion if you refer to him as Lump, Dumpf, Orange man, etc.....you're bias is showing.

I'm kind of tired of it all, so I went on a News black out....never any good news, only bad. Remember when CNN actually covered world news, like the gulf wars or some natural disasters.....now you can't watch for 5 minutes without a comment about the President

Back to talking about the reason I'm here..C4s!!
NPR has changed to the same thing. I have a 25 minute drive to work each way. I can't listen without hearing something presented negatively about Trump. I believe the leftist are missing a prime opportunity to grab power. Instead of looking at the reason Trump got elected, they are doubling down on the mud slinging.

If you think Trump is more corrupt than any recent president since the 70's, you are allowing yourself to be fooled.
If you think Russians posting stuff on social media influenced our elections, but don't care that the DNC actually directly influenced the Primaries... you are being manipulated.
If you think Trump is a racist, but ignore all the awards he received for helping minorities and the events he went to before becoming a serious contender for Presidency... you are a puppet for the Democrats.

I didn't vote for Trump, H. Clinton, either Bush, nor Obama. All were crooked, all made a lot of money of being politicians, all have blood and dirt on their hands, and did some good things as well. Stop the fighting, suck it up and deal with the 4-8 years. I have many times. Our population needs to reject the negativity, impose term limits on Congress at the ballot box, and stop electing career politicians.

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Old 01-11-2019, 01:18 PM
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If any you Cali guys wanna send me your corsa's or borla's, I'll pay the shipping ... LOL frfr
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by vette196 View Post
Like him or not he is the President of the United States. How can you have a real discussion if you refer to him as Lump, Dumpf, Orange man, etc.....you're bias is showing.

I'm kind of tired of it all, so I went on a News black out....never any good news, only bad. Remember when CNN actually covered world news, like the gulf wars or some natural disasters.....now you can't watch for 5 minutes without a comment about the President

Back to talking about the reason I'm here..C4s!!
With politics, the lean is already there so what is the point of a real discussion? It is your man vs my man basically.

Gets much better when you just read the news so you can blow off articles that are left or right leaning. So if you give me a "Fox and Friends" or a NPR thing, I don't even read it.
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Our population needs to reject the negativity, impose term limits on Congress at the ballot box, and stop electing career politicians.
Bingo. And please, quit voting the party line. I am registered as an independent. For years we would have both Democrat as well as Republican signs in the yard. They had to coexist. My wife and I would support who we felt was the best candidate, regardless of party, sex, nationality etc. It was their qualifications and whether they would support/represent everyone equally instead of pushing the party's ideology.
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:38 PM
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NPR has changed to the same thing. I have a 25 minute drive to work each way. I can't listen without hearing something presented negatively about Trump. I believe the leftist are missing a prime opportunity to grab power. Instead of looking at the reason Trump got elected, they are doubling down on the mud slinging.

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I didn't vote for Trump, H. Clinton, either Bush, nor Obama. All were crooked, all made a lot of money of being politicians, all have blood and dirt on their hands, and did some good things as well. Stop the fighting, suck it up and deal with the 4-8 years. I have many times. Our population needs to reject the negativity, impose term limits on Congress at the ballot box, and stop electing career politicians.
Wouldn't know. I don't listen to NPR any more than Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck. Kinda boring when you already know the conclusion. The difference is NPR puts it in a much more neutral APPEARING way while Rush and Glenn are more "in your face". Left or right doesn't mean anything. As someone said, you can either vote for a Demopublican or a Republicrat.

Our population only votes on who pays them. Your man gets you this set of goodies, you vote for him because it is in your interests. That he will destroy the world, you don't care since you already got your goodies. As long as you get paid, you don't ask. Remember the Germans being surprised that the death camps were going on? How are you surprised when suddenly a group is rounded up and you get their jobs, apartments, etc. Of course if you ask the hard questions, you might not sleep as well so "don't ask, don't tell".
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Originally Posted by GS60th#47 View Post
If any you Cali guys wanna send me your corsa's or borla's, I'll pay the shipping ... LOL frfr
I'll take 1 Corsa and pay shipping and throw in $100 if it is in good shape.
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I'll take 1 Corsa and pay shipping and throw in $100 if it is in good shape.
Ditto......but my cash offer is $101
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Ditto......but my cash offer is $101
I'll see your $101 and raise to $105.
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Originally Posted by vette196 View Post
Ditto......but my cash offer is $101

I Demand my Commission! hahahahaha
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Once again, if anyone is unhappy living in California, MOVE. It's over crowded here, and I need more room to "open up" my '96 on the freeways. In a perfect world, all states would have some clean air guidelines even for 25 year old cars. We all need to breathe. And yes, CA does tax too much for everything. But, I was born here and I'm used to it and know no other way of life. I'm spoiled with our great weather, coasts, beaches, deserts, mountains, and National parks. Maybe the lesson here is, don't put an extra loud exhaust on your Corvette that's going to **** off your neighbor if you happen to start it up at 3AM, and that neighbor is 200 feet away. (I am done being political)

But for the love of God, please stop coming to Colorado..... Youre ruining our state like you did your own...

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But for the love of God, please stop coming to Colorado..... Youre ruining our state like you did your own...
Just leave your politics behind. If you want to live in a Socialist state and pay high taxes, please stay.
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Originally Posted by 81c3 View Post
But for the love of God, please stop coming to Colorado..... Youre ruining our state like you did your own...

HA Just swap NY or NJ for cali and PA (where I live) for colorado, I say the same thing all the time. They're like a cancer spreading in from the coasts.
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Do you have a Borla, Flowmaster or other aftermarket exhaust system? Do you have an extra $1000 in your pocket? California wants your money and mufflers.

https://speedsociety.com/breaking-california-exhaust-law-changed-automatic-1000-fine-non-correctable/?

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Existing law requires every motor vehicle subject to registration to be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise and prohibits a muffler or exhaust system from being equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device. Existing law further prohibits the modification of an exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner that will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle exceeds existing noise limits.
This bill would include, among those conditions that are disqualifying, a violation of the above-described requirements related to mufflers and exhaust systems.”
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I feel this has nothing to do with emissions but more to do with the commie govt wanting to ensure that ‘no vehicle can outrun their police vehicle’ 🙄

kind of like a my d 1ck bigger than yours type thing
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It is shocking how many people believe that loud exhaust = more power. This is true in a few cases. When people replace a perfectly good stock exhaust, mostly it's because they want a better engine sound, plus a few extra ponies (not many). Sure a performance exhaust can give a lot of power when paired with other airflow essentials such as camshaft, intake, etc. But replacing the exhaust alone mostly just makes it noisy.
I love this exhaust law. I am sick and tired of dirt bags with straight pipes blasting wide open down residential streets at 2am. Acting like 14 year olds, living in a bubble, isolated from all other humans. The noise is deafening and it likely wakes up everyone. Completely asinine, selfish, and inconsiderate. Residential streets are not your personal racetrack. Time to grow up!

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It is shocking how many people believe that loud exhaust = more power. This is true in a few cases. When people replace a perfectly good stock exhaust, mostly it's because they want a better engine sound, plus a few extra ponies (not many). Sure a performance exhaust can give a lot of power when paired with other airflow essentials such as camshaft, intake, etc. But replacing the exhaust alone mostly just makes it noisy.
I love this exhaust law. I am sick and tired of dirt bags with straight pipes blasting wide open down residential streets at 2am. Residential streets are not your personal racetrack. Time to grow up!
Population density. What you are describing just doesn't apply here. It also doesn't apply to about 90% of your state. I have lived there.

I am getting really freaking tired of people on the coasts (or big LIBERAL cities) thinking they know what is best for everyone else based off their experiences.

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Acting like 14 year olds, living in a bubble, isolated from all other humans. Completely asinine, selfish, and inconsiderate.
Agree... follow your own advice please.

The rest of this country is not San Diego, Los Angeles, Sacramento, New York, and Chicago... far from it.
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Originally Posted by dizwiz24 View Post

I feel this has nothing to do with emissions but more to do with the commie govt wanting to ensure that ‘no vehicle can outrun their police vehicle’ ��

kind of like a my d 1ck bigger than yours type thing
Nah, its about a bunch of whiny rich people who only think others should enjoy what they do. Typical Liberal Ideology. - If you don't like it, ban it

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