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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 05:44 PM
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Really? This would be the first time I have ever heard of someone with an 84 running a Renegade that had issues of it hitting the hood with airbox.
Mine is close. When I replaced the air filter (with a genuine AC Delco filter ) (from Mexico) the filter didn’t seat properly in the air box. The result was that the air box lid sat a little high and made slight contact with the bonnet. The solution was to push on the lid hard and tighten the lid bolts as much as I can. The problem is not the Renegade but the ill fitting air filter. I might try a K&N next time.
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 10:26 PM
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Mine is close. When I replaced the air filter (with a genuine AC Delco filter ) (from Mexico) the filter didn’t seat properly in the air box. The result was that the air box lid sat a little high and made slight contact with the bonnet. The solution was to push on the lid hard and tighten the lid bolts as much as I can. The problem is not the Renegade but the ill fitting air filter. I might try a K&N next time.
Oh WOW! I never heard of any issues until now whether lid or filters. Thanks Greg.

On another note...The NEW HAM boards arrived today so it was a great day. They are new and improved (not so much for the 84 though, even a new color with ALL gold connections. I also added a few other items, check it out.
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Buccaneer
Really? This would be the first time I have ever heard of someone with an 84 running a Renegade that had issues of it hitting the hood with airbox.
actually wore the paint off my lid lol.
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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 02:49 PM
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Odd...We developed the manifold for the 84 and Jim has the protype hand built one on his motor now with no issues. Since the 84 had the least amount of room up top to play with vs. the 82 and the way the hood had the rubber ring which is fudge factor. Unless EMS has once again NOT machined it correctly, it should be just fine on an 84. FYI: the gasket is now 1/32" thick and is now posted on the site, but no cost associated with it yet.

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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 02:52 PM
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Maybe '84's engine mounts are in better shape than Jim's or other's?
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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 09:07 PM
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Maybe '84's engine mounts are in better shape than Jim's or other's?
Jim's were brand new when we dropped in the new 383 motor, who knows why for sure what has happened?

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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 09:27 PM
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Judging by the rest of my experience... it wouldn't surprise me if the machining were off. It's only 1 side that hits to boot...
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OK, so I was thinking/toying with the idea about doing something unique in relation to the Renegade on my end. This is ONLY a thought at the moment, but it could happen if things go right. I thought about doing a "blue printed" manifold of sorts that I got from a friend of mine, the concept anyway. I would have my local machinist do all the machining which we used in the beginning with no issues since he would never let anything go out the door looking like a EMS manifold. I know it would be correct and then put my own twist on it to make it an exclusive XFP piece to include a special serial number. It would still have the DCS initials on it, only because there is no way of changing that which I'm OK with anyway.

I would also guarantee the fitment to be right the first time since I would actually mount the manifold on my spare block. So there shouldn't be any questions that it doesn't fit on a standard deck block with standard height heads. If you were to have milled heads or some crazy block deck, then all bets are off. I would even go so far as to drop the price if possible, no promises on that one though since it may be a lot of work on my end to make it the way I would want it.
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Originally Posted by Buccaneer
OK, so I was thinking/toying with the idea about doing something unique in relation to the Renegade on my end. This is ONLY a thought at the moment, but it could happen if things go right. I thought about doing a "blue printed" manifold of sorts that I got from a friend of mine, the concept anyway. I would have my local machinist do all the machining which we used in the beginning with no issues since he would never let anything go out the door looking like a EMS manifold. I know it would be correct and then put my own twist on it to make it an exclusive XFP piece to include a special serial number. It would still have the DCS initials on it, only because there is no way of changing that which I'm OK with anyway.

I would also guarantee the fitment to be right the first time since I would actually mount the manifold on my spare block. So there shouldn't be any questions that it doesn't fit on a standard deck block with standard height heads. If you were to have milled heads or some crazy block deck, then all bets are off. I would even go so far as to drop the price if possible, no promises on that one though since it may be a lot of work on my end to make it the way I would want it.
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if I could get one serialized at #84 I'd be down lol.

Seriously though, I wouldn't mind. Heck you could port it too... I got some ideas of what I'd like to do... it is a matter of if I go through with it lol.
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Old Oct 18, 2019 | 08:32 PM
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if I could get one serialized at #84 I'd be down lol.

Seriously though, I wouldn't mind. Heck you could port it too... I got some ideas of what I'd like to do... it is a matter of if I go through with it lol.
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Old Oct 18, 2019 | 08:37 PM
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pull the trigger
I'd be pushing it far if I do... one wild ride though.
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Old Oct 18, 2019 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Buccaneer
OK, so I was thinking/toying with the idea about doing something unique in relation to the Renegade on my end. This is ONLY a thought at the moment, but it could happen if things go right. I thought about doing a "blue printed" manifold of sorts that I got from a friend of mine, the concept anyway. I would have my local machinist do all the machining which we used in the beginning with no issues since he would never let anything go out the door looking like a EMS manifold. I know it would be correct and then put my own twist on it to make it an exclusive XFP piece to include a special serial number. It would still have the DCS initials on it, only because there is no way of changing that which I'm OK with anyway.

I would also guarantee the fitment to be right the first time since I would actually mount the manifold on my spare block. So there shouldn't be any questions that it doesn't fit on a standard deck block with standard height heads. If you were to have milled heads or some crazy block deck, then all bets are off. I would even go so far as to drop the price if possible, no promises on that one though since it may be a lot of work on my end to make it the way I would want it.
Well?
If you decide to do that within the next couple months and can hold the price, I'll buy one. I bought a complete crossfire intake (including virgin unused TB's) off our local CL with the intent of porting it myself. I'm not intending to build a monster, just want to unleash the easy gains that are available. I was going to get a Renegade, but all of the reported quality problems turned me off. Just too expensive of a part to put up with sloppy quality. But I appreciate all the work you've done in the design and if it's guaranteed I get a good one for no additional $, I'm in. But it's a winter project for me, once I've jumped into the porting of the one I picked up, I'm less interested.
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Old Oct 19, 2019 | 11:29 AM
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If it's a Renegade with good quality guaranteed I'd take it even at a higher price.
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Old Oct 20, 2019 | 12:42 AM
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It's just a thought at this point since I need to get a hold of the foundry and see what kind of price I can work out with them on a limited pour run. Everything has to work out for this to work and keep prices down if possible. If it looks like I can do this, I will post it on my site for sure and maybe something here without getting in trouble which I'm not looking to do. Thanks for the input though.
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couple guys on speedtalk asking about your intake wanting to put 2 carbs on them
For the $ its hard to beat that intake and what it is...so make sure the flanges are straight check the bolt holes like you would any intake and use it.
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
couple guys on speedtalk asking about your intake wanting to put 2 carbs on them
For the $ its hard to beat that intake and what it is...so make sure the flanges are straight check the bolt holes like you would any intake and use it.
That's interesting. I'm not familiar with that "speedtalk" forum? Shoot me a PM.
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Still pursuing the raw casting project and have been rather busy, getting a little push back on this from CA company. Oh well, it's my tooling. If they **** me off too much I will see about pulling the tooling completely. Posted up new items on the site, like top plate gaskets and other things.
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Just to let everyone know, there is a VERY good possibility that the tooling is going to be removed from EMS. More on this as it develops.
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@Buccaneer what will be done with it if it is pulled from EMS? I guess it wouldn't matter if production ended since EMS is turning out junk but I want this great product to continue. Without a viable intake option there is no reason to not just ditch the CFI and save for an LS swap.
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@Buccaneer what will be done with it if it is pulled from EMS? I guess it wouldn't matter if production ended since EMS is turning out junk but I want this great product to continue. Without a viable intake option there is no reason to not just ditch the CFI and save for an LS swap.
if I had to guess, small batch casting done under @Buccaneer supervision so it's actually right?

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