C4 ZR-1 Discussion General ZR-1 Corvette Discussion, LT5 Corvette Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Suspension Setup for Street or Track

368 porting - dyno results

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-21-2006, 12:21 AM
  #1  
locobob
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
locobob's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2002
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 1,491
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts

Default 368 porting - dyno results

Finally got back on the dyno to see the results of my latest mods. My original thread about this project is now in the archives: click here Here are the dyno sheets showing before and after: The first one is with the additional intake port work and underdrive pulleys on the alternator and water pump. The second dyno graph is the same as above only with some prom tuning. I'm pretty happy with the results overall, the peak numbers are just awesome. I did lose some midrange torque however so it would appear that I traded some torque for upper end with my aggressive port work. Not sure how much of the gain is the port work and how much is the U-drive pulleys. Hopefully someone will test just the pulleys so we'll know. All in all average HP is up and in the 5500-7500rpm range where the engine will be during serious driving it's way up. I think there is still more power to be had, believe it or not most of the tuning involved removing timing from the stock timing curve?! We were getting a good deal of knock retard and finally eliminated it by removing 1-2 degrees, pretty much across the board. Next up will be a colder thermostat, we actually saw a peak of 484rwhp on the first pull after lunch. Seems like the engine likes running a bit cooler. With coolant temps around 195F the car was consistantly putting down 477-478rwhp. Anyhow thats it for now, a big thanks to dyno owner and forum member TJ Wong for all the help today.




Last edited by locobob; 02-21-2006 at 12:24 AM.
Old 02-21-2006, 12:26 AM
  #2  
cv67
Team Owner
 
cv67's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2004
Location: altered state
Posts: 81,242
Received 3,043 Likes on 2,602 Posts
St. Jude Donor '05

Default

Excellent! Your work looks nice, Bob.
Can't say enough good things about TJ, either-Very talented guy.
Old 02-21-2006, 12:26 AM
  #3  
90 Corvette ZR-1
Le Mans Master
 
90 Corvette ZR-1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2000
Location: pa
Posts: 8,277
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

damn. Nice numbers...
Old 02-21-2006, 12:35 AM
  #4  
ZZZZZR1
Burning Brakes
 
ZZZZZR1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2001
Location: Auburn WA
Posts: 1,149
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Nicely done, Rob. Maybe the now-proven results will stop those "low hanging fruit" comments from the nay sayers.
Old 02-21-2006, 12:53 AM
  #5  
DDSLT5
Team Owner
 
DDSLT5's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2002
Location: This city NEVER sleeps! Frank's back yard!
Posts: 35,628
Received 68 Likes on 40 Posts

Default

Impossible!

Hey Robert - now you know why I run a 160 stat!
Old 02-21-2006, 12:54 AM
  #6  
DDSLT5
Team Owner
 
DDSLT5's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2002
Location: This city NEVER sleeps! Frank's back yard!
Posts: 35,628
Received 68 Likes on 40 Posts

Default

That damn thing still got texas plates? For how many years?
Old 02-21-2006, 01:13 AM
  #7  
locobob
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
locobob's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2002
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 1,491
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by DDSLT5
That damn thing still got texas plates? For how many years?
Naw, it's got Oregon tags now, TJ's just a little slow in the file updating/organizing department... hell I found some of Jeffs runs under my name
Old 02-21-2006, 01:34 AM
  #8  
Jeffvette
Race Director
 
Jeffvette's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2000
Location: No more yankee my wankee, the Donger is tired!
Posts: 17,101
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by locobob
Naw, it's got Oregon tags now, TJ's just a little slow in the file updating/organizing department... hell I found some of Jeffs runs under my name
I believe it has more to do with the preset settings. We are the only ZR-1's that frequent his shop.

Tom is a great tuner on anything. LS1, L98, LT1 and LT5. Couldn't ask for anything more.
Old 02-21-2006, 03:28 AM
  #9  
locobob
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
locobob's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2002
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 1,491
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Jeffvette
I believe it has more to do with the preset settings. We are the only ZR-1's that frequent his shop.

Tom is a great tuner on anything. LS1, L98, LT1 and LT5. Couldn't ask for anything more.
Didn't think of that, probably right about the presets. Tom is definitely the man to see for tuning in OR-WA.
Old 02-21-2006, 04:13 AM
  #10  
locobob
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
locobob's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2002
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 1,491
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by DDSLT5
Impossible!

Hey Robert - now you know why I run a 160 stat!

What cruising temps do you actually see in the CC readout with the 160 stat? I typically see 88-92C with my 180 stat.
Old 02-21-2006, 08:38 AM
  #11  
ZR1 MK
Melting Slicks
 
ZR1 MK's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2002
Location: NY
Posts: 2,066
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

locobob
Those are some power numbers for a 368.
Have you put enough miles on to see the water and oil temp differences, if any, with the larger water pump pulley. If so what are the results. What is the reduction percentage? Im very interested in any info regarding this.
Old 02-21-2006, 11:24 AM
  #12  
Zr1 Destroyer
Burning Brakes
 
Zr1 Destroyer's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2005
Location: Thornton,Co. Press 1 to Proceed in English or 2 for Deportation ...don't let the fence hit you in the azz!
Posts: 766
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ZR1 MK
locobob
Those are some power numbers for a 368.
Have you put enough miles on to see the water and oil temp differences, if any, with the larger water pump pulley. If so what are the results. What is the reduction percentage? Im very interested in any info regarding this.
ZR1 MK, very nice pics of your car.....it looks like you keep it clean enough to eat off of!

PS......how is your 427lt5 project coming along at EES?
Old 02-21-2006, 11:30 AM
  #13  
Zr1 Destroyer
Burning Brakes
 
Zr1 Destroyer's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2005
Location: Thornton,Co. Press 1 to Proceed in English or 2 for Deportation ...don't let the fence hit you in the azz!
Posts: 766
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

It looks like you picked up 20+ rwhp with your porting project, not bad at all..........definitely worth your time!!!
Old 02-21-2006, 12:16 PM
  #14  
DDSLT5
Team Owner
 
DDSLT5's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2002
Location: This city NEVER sleeps! Frank's back yard!
Posts: 35,628
Received 68 Likes on 40 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by locobob
What cruising temps do you actually see in the CC readout with the 160 stat? I typically see 88-92C with my 180 stat.

I cruise at oil temps of 167F, and coolant varies between 168-174F. Perfect temps for MAX power!
Old 02-21-2006, 12:18 PM
  #15  
ZR1 MK
Melting Slicks
 
ZR1 MK's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2002
Location: NY
Posts: 2,066
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Zr1 Destroyer
ZR1 MK, very nice pics of your car.....it looks like you keep it clean enough to eat off of! PS......how is your 427lt5 project coming along at EES?
Thanks for compliments on car. Im a waxer and track guy.
I sent him a complete 95 engine in Feb, but due to hurricane issues, he wont start till April/May. Im not in a hurry anyway. Im only interested in quality. No down time since this is an extra engine.
Old 02-21-2006, 12:18 PM
  #16  
DDSLT5
Team Owner
 
DDSLT5's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2002
Location: This city NEVER sleeps! Frank's back yard!
Posts: 35,628
Received 68 Likes on 40 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by ZR1 MK
locobob
Those are some power numbers for a 368.
Have you put enough miles on to see the water and oil temp differences, if any, with the larger water pump pulley. If so what are the results. What is the reduction percentage? Im very interested in any info regarding this.

I have the same underdrive pulleys on my 415 - with the 160 stat, she has never run cooler - only in severe heat in stop/go traffic does it get to 195F, then both fans come on to pull it down to 180F, and turn off again.
Old 02-21-2006, 12:52 PM
  #17  
Zr1 Destroyer
Burning Brakes
 
Zr1 Destroyer's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2005
Location: Thornton,Co. Press 1 to Proceed in English or 2 for Deportation ...don't let the fence hit you in the azz!
Posts: 766
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DDSLT5
I have the same underdrive pulleys on my 415 - with the 160 stat, she has never run cooler - only in severe heat in stop/go traffic does it get to 195F, then both fans come on to pull it down to 180F, and turn off again.
Mike, what radiator are you running in your Z?

Get notified of new replies

To 368 porting - dyno results

Old 02-21-2006, 12:58 PM
  #18  
Zr1 Destroyer
Burning Brakes
 
Zr1 Destroyer's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2005
Location: Thornton,Co. Press 1 to Proceed in English or 2 for Deportation ...don't let the fence hit you in the azz!
Posts: 766
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ZR1 MK
Thanks for compliments on car. Im a waxer and track guy.
I sent him a complete 95 engine in Feb, but due to hurricane issues, he wont start till April/May. Im not in a hurry anyway. Im only interested in quality. No down time since this is an extra engine.
Cool,keep it between the ditches!

I'm trying to get Rod post some pics of his 427 bottom end before he straps on the heads!!!
Old 02-21-2006, 01:35 PM
  #19  
ZR1 MK
Melting Slicks
 
ZR1 MK's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2002
Location: NY
Posts: 2,066
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Im considering an ATI damper that reduces all accessories by 35%.
My radiator and oil cooler is a Fluidyne setup similar to what some SCCA World Challenge cars use. Its a 3 row unit, but it also come 4 row.
Old 02-21-2006, 01:49 PM
  #20  
DDSLT5
Team Owner
 
DDSLT5's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2002
Location: This city NEVER sleeps! Frank's back yard!
Posts: 35,628
Received 68 Likes on 40 Posts

Default

I'm running the Ron Davis rad, stock fans - not stock calibration of the fans.


Quick Reply: 368 porting - dyno results



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:14 AM.