Friend's 91' zr-1 climate control out of whack
#1
Le Mans Master
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Friend's 91' zr-1 climate control out of whack
A buddy of mine's zr-1 has a problem with the climate control where it is in constant operation. He said he pulled the part that was causing the problem but that GM no longer supplies that particular part. I'm trying to help him out as he isn't too internet savy and still has 54K dialup on one of those old computers and he doesn't know his way around the internet too well.
I should see him sometime Sunday to check out the part but figured maybe somebody knew what in the climate control system would cause the constant a/c if it malfunctioned? If I get an idea I can give him a price on the part that I could find from on here or somewhere else so he can expect how much to spend on it.
Will try to get pictures tomorrow.
This won't be the last time I post here, his car is running in reduced power mode because of another electrical gremlin that I hope to track down. Sooner his car is running right, the sooner I get to test drive it.
I should see him sometime Sunday to check out the part but figured maybe somebody knew what in the climate control system would cause the constant a/c if it malfunctioned? If I get an idea I can give him a price on the part that I could find from on here or somewhere else so he can expect how much to spend on it.
Will try to get pictures tomorrow.
This won't be the last time I post here, his car is running in reduced power mode because of another electrical gremlin that I hope to track down. Sooner his car is running right, the sooner I get to test drive it.
Last edited by 1985 Corvette; 05-19-2007 at 10:29 PM.
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Welcome aboard. Between here and the ZR1Registry http://www.zr1netregistry.com/forum/index.php?, you will get all the help you need. I'm not a tuner so I am sure others will respond to your requests soon. Search the archives here and over there and see if you come up with anything regarding your problem. As far as the low power, I'll leave that to others to help with when you get ready.
#3
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Welcome aboard. Between here and the ZR1Registry http://www.zr1netregistry.com/forum/index.php?, you will get all the help you need. I'm not a tuner so I am sure others will respond to your requests soon. Search the archives here and over there and see if you come up with anything regarding your problem. As far as the low power, I'll leave that to others to help with when you get ready.
He's a nice guy that bought the thing brand new back in 91' and it's just now giving him problems and I hate to see it sitting there.
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Can you tell us what the part was or post a picture? Is it the head unit for the electronic climate control? Is it the A/C programmer?
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I am in Birmingham, I also have a 95 ZR1, tell you buddy to contact me at corvette95@charter.net and if he wants to bring it to Bham, I will fix it (or SHOW HIM HOW TO) for free - he pays for parts only - prob wont need any.
Chris
Chris
#6
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Cvette, I haven't caught up with him yet.
Bham: I will give your address to him first chance I get. Thanks for offering to help him out. You'll know more about the car than I would helping him.
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Okay, just got back from looking at the car some more and the guy pulled the electronic air blower control because he suspected that was the problem. it sits on top of the a/c housing on the passenger side in the engine bay, is a two plug unit and has a pretty good sized heat sink unit attached to it.
According to the electronic diagram, you're not supposed to test the module because it's in a solid state (or some term that I can't remember) and any voltage applied outside of the car could harm the unit. Well, it was done anyway and the conclusion was the module was okay.
A trouble shooting diagram said start first at the A/C Heater control head unit which is right there in the center console. He skipped ahead to the module because he's not sure about opening up the dash to remove the head unit. I'm not and I'm ready to do this but I need to read up on the 90 and up console structure. It doesn't look as straight forward as the 84-89 dash.
Also:
The engine has been running rough because of a bad coil so he tells me and he plans to replace all of them. He was curious as to the price of a few things.
4 H.V. coils
LT5 sparkplug wire set
Enging gasket set
We get all that taken care of and she'll be back on the road.
According to the electronic diagram, you're not supposed to test the module because it's in a solid state (or some term that I can't remember) and any voltage applied outside of the car could harm the unit. Well, it was done anyway and the conclusion was the module was okay.
A trouble shooting diagram said start first at the A/C Heater control head unit which is right there in the center console. He skipped ahead to the module because he's not sure about opening up the dash to remove the head unit. I'm not and I'm ready to do this but I need to read up on the 90 and up console structure. It doesn't look as straight forward as the 84-89 dash.
Also:
The engine has been running rough because of a bad coil so he tells me and he plans to replace all of them. He was curious as to the price of a few things.
4 H.V. coils
LT5 sparkplug wire set
Enging gasket set
We get all that taken care of and she'll be back on the road.
#9
Team Owner
I like my MSD wires, but they were WAY too long. I took mine apart and shortened them up to match the stockers.
I had some weird stuff happen with my '91 A/C controls. I had read up on how to pull codes from the unit, but in the mean time, I unhooked the battery for something else, and it reset and seems to be working fine, now.
I had some weird stuff happen with my '91 A/C controls. I had read up on how to pull codes from the unit, but in the mean time, I unhooked the battery for something else, and it reset and seems to be working fine, now.
#10
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Okay, just got back from looking at the car some more and the guy pulled the electronic air blower control because he suspected that was the problem. it sits on top of the a/c housing on the passenger side in the engine bay, is a two plug unit and has a pretty good sized heat sink unit attached to it.
According to the electronic diagram, you're not supposed to test the module because it's in a solid state (or some term that I can't remember) and any voltage applied outside of the car could harm the unit. Well, it was done anyway and the conclusion was the module was okay.
A trouble shooting diagram said start first at the A/C Heater control head unit which is right there in the center console. He skipped ahead to the module because he's not sure about opening up the dash to remove the head unit. I'm not and I'm ready to do this but I need to read up on the 90 and up console structure. It doesn't look as straight forward as the 84-89 dash.
Also:
The engine has been running rough because of a bad coil so he tells me and he plans to replace all of them. He was curious as to the price of a few things.
4 H.V. coils
LT5 sparkplug wire set
Enging gasket set
We get all that taken care of and she'll be back on the road.
According to the electronic diagram, you're not supposed to test the module because it's in a solid state (or some term that I can't remember) and any voltage applied outside of the car could harm the unit. Well, it was done anyway and the conclusion was the module was okay.
A trouble shooting diagram said start first at the A/C Heater control head unit which is right there in the center console. He skipped ahead to the module because he's not sure about opening up the dash to remove the head unit. I'm not and I'm ready to do this but I need to read up on the 90 and up console structure. It doesn't look as straight forward as the 84-89 dash.
Also:
The engine has been running rough because of a bad coil so he tells me and he plans to replace all of them. He was curious as to the price of a few things.
4 H.V. coils
LT5 sparkplug wire set
Enging gasket set
We get all that taken care of and she'll be back on the road.
Coils AC Delco $140.00 per set free shipping all day on EBAY
DELCO Replacement wires about $40-$50 also on Ebay
Upper Plenium gaskets about $75.00 not including the TB different shops
#12
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It blows nonstop on high I believe. Even after he has shut the car off and taken the key out of the ignition, the blower continues to run.
If it comes to having to remove the a/c control head unit, can someone link me to console/dash removal of a the 90 model and up cars?
If it comes to having to remove the a/c control head unit, can someone link me to console/dash removal of a the 90 model and up cars?
Last edited by 1985 Corvette; 06-03-2007 at 12:16 PM.
#13
Team Owner
Originally Posted by 1985 Corvette
Even after he has shut the car off and taken the key out of the ignition, the blower continues to run.
#14
Race Director
one of the bigest things on these for ac is the head unit in the dash and the programer behind the dash, thats a fun one ill tell you that!
theres nothing special about pulling the head unit just do it, pull the shifter bezel then start on the bezel with the key it has 3 screws that hold it in and a few metal spring like retainers that hold it in. be sure to unplug the power key and then it will move out of the way, The head unit just has 2 screws maybe 3 and it pulls out from the dash.
I have a spare head unit if he needs it taken out of a 91 for $ 100 plus shipping
theres nothing special about pulling the head unit just do it, pull the shifter bezel then start on the bezel with the key it has 3 screws that hold it in and a few metal spring like retainers that hold it in. be sure to unplug the power key and then it will move out of the way, The head unit just has 2 screws maybe 3 and it pulls out from the dash.
I have a spare head unit if he needs it taken out of a 91 for $ 100 plus shipping
#15
If it blows "constant" even when shutoff and key removed it is likely the part that your friend removed. I had that situation and it was the cure. A good bit of diagnostics but it came right down to that. No guarantee but it's a good place to start. How did he arrive at that conclusion? Obviously someone needed to head him in that direction. I was very skeptical of the fix but it's an easy reach.
Last edited by WVZR-1; 06-03-2007 at 10:01 PM.
#16
Le Mans Master
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If it blows "constant" even when shutoff and key removed it is likely the part that your friend removed. I had that situation and it was the cure. A good bit of diagnostics but it came right down to that. No guarantee but it's a good place to start. How did he arrive at that conclusion? Obviously someone needed to head him in that direction. I was very skeptical of the fix but it's an easy reach.
He checked it with one of his instruments and it checked out fine. I'll double check on that. I'll be sure to relay what you said about it to him too. Should see him sometime tomorrow.
Also, is there anywhere else (supporting vendors maybe?) besides ebay where he might find the previous listed replacement parts?
#17
Looking for help with an a/c blower
My a/c blower recently started blowing constantly with key off and out of ignition. Following the steps in the tech manual for troubleshooting, it says for this problem to first start by checking the a/c underhood fuse. The problem is that I can't find it. There is a diagram in the manual but the fuse isn't there in the car. Any thoughts as to where it could be?