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Old 11-15-2007, 09:20 AM
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Thanks for the participation in the thread. I realize it isn't negative. Sorry...my bad
Old 11-15-2007, 12:01 PM
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but it would still be fun to take him for a ride in a ported zr1. i'll buy the depends
Old 11-15-2007, 01:42 PM
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Maybe these clowns are suffering from a "Writers Strike" seems like lack of ability to come up with something new!!!
All the younger news Experts will misquote the ZR-1 as they never knew the nameplate and hence a lot of garbage will hit the fan.

We must endure this generation of news mongers as GM try's to sell the past!
Old 11-16-2007, 03:22 AM
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I think the mags should just trash the new model and give props to a 15 year old sportscar instead.
Old 11-17-2007, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
Name a single other car by GM that the parts didn't get dumped and discontinued on after 10 years. I'd say GM abandoned the ZR1 because people didn't want to pay $30K for a motor option. Someone objective might say the American consumer abandoned it, not GM.

Nobody loves me.
Got a 1974 Chevrolet with a 454??? Need the engine replaced??? Her you go:
http://www.sdparts.com/product/88890...4NLF8454W.aspx
And that's for a 34 year old car...more than 3 times what you asked for. And there are plenty of more example like that...any more stupid requests?

People paid the $30K for the ZR1 option as evidenced by the fact that all were sold...and it wasn't a motor option. Only an ignorant person would say the American consumer abandoned the ZR1. GM made the decision in September 1991 to discontinue the ZR1...long before the "consumer" could have an impact. The last engine was made in November 1993 and the production line at Mercruiser was shut down.

You offer opinions (based on zero research) as facts. You give "facts" that are no where close to being correct. You take some kind of sick delight in pissing people off for no reason. And then you complain that nobody loves you...I'm asking seriously, can you understand why???
Old 11-17-2007, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
I think the mags should just trash the new model and give props to a 15 year old sportscar instead.
Ahhh, sarcasm...at least you played to your strong suit and didn't try to say something smart.
Old 11-17-2007, 03:50 AM
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Old 11-17-2007, 03:57 AM
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Damn Ron.
Old 11-17-2007, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by djpatrick35
Sure I hate Jeremy Clarkson because he hates Corvettes, but I won't question his integrity or his profession simply because I don't agree with him and ESPECIALLY because he might miss a horsepower number by a few ponies.

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He actually likes the C6!! As a factual car tester he sucks. good humerous TV, or even better a fun read (his books are funny) is what he is all about. Sure he steps on just about everybody's toes at some point when he writes but in these days of politicaly correct nonsense and health and saftey in the extreme, it really is a breath of fresh air.

Couldn't see anything wrong with that article

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Old 11-17-2007, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
that's funny stuff there!
Old 11-17-2007, 09:52 AM
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The original point was to design a DOHC package on an existing small block. That didn't happen and GM and their hired help designed them into a corner. There was no way that package would become feasible and commonplace at that time. Even had they expanded production into all vettes or even other cars, the Z owners would complain that GM sold them out.
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Originally Posted by glass slipper
Got a 1974 Chevrolet with a 454??? Need the engine replaced??? Her you go:
http://www.sdparts.com/product/88890...4NLF8454W.aspx
And that's for a 34 year old car...more than 3 times what you asked for. And there are plenty of more example like that...any more stupid requests?
I have one. Please read and consider

http://www.albion.com/netiquette/corerules.html

Thank you.
Old 11-28-2007, 08:53 AM
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Geez - I hope GM doesnt make the same mistake they did with our Z's. They didnt separate the base car aesthetically from the Z and thus cut the external model differentiation to a simple badging issue. Notice they are only making about 2K of them the first year - sounds familiar - huh?
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I cant wait to see the fancy new plastic engine covers. Long live the King.
















Old 11-28-2007, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ZR1Rob
Geez - I hope GM doesnt make the same mistake they did with our Z's. They didn't separate the base car aesthetically from the Z and thus cut the external model differentiation to a simple badging issue. Notice they are only making about 2K of them the first year - sounds familiar - huh?
I couldn't agree with you more. They need to have some REAL body cues to differentiate it from the base Vette and the Z06. I think the biggest mistake was making our ZR-1s look so close to the L98s and LT1s.

But what will always set our cars apart is the lack of crappy plastic covers in our engine bays! Long live the King!
Old 11-28-2007, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by djpatrick35
I couldn't agree with you more. They need to have some REAL body cues to differentiate it from the base Vette and the Z06. I think the biggest mistake was making our ZR-1s look so close to the L98s and LT1s.
That's interesting, because in every other ZR-1 vs. The World thread, they pound their chests about the major body changes from the base model, when in fact the only significant difference over the base model is the engine and rear tires.
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
That's interesting, because in every other ZR-1 vs. The World thread, they pound their chests about the major body changes from the base model, when in fact the only significant difference over the base model is the engine and rear tires.
That's what it looks like to the untrained eye, but it uses different exterior parts from the front clip back. The car's four inches longer, there's a different rear end, the doors are longer, everything.

Sit a ZR-1 next to another C4 and it's fun to see the subtle changes between them.

I've got a '90 ZR-1 and my dad's got an '84 coupe. It was a lot of fun to check out the differences because they're subtle, but they're definitely there.
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
That's interesting, because in every other ZR-1 vs. The World thread, they pound their chests about the major body changes from the base model, when in fact the only significant difference over the base model is the engine and rear tires.
I was afraid maybe you were charging for advice by now and we wouldn't get to hear gems like this anymore?

"Significant" depends on what you are talking about. Try to fit a standard rear bumper on a ZR-1, you might find the difference is "significant".

I don't think too many people say they look significantly different from a standard coupe though, at least not with the hood closed. You try to equate this with meaning it was simply an engine package. Those are not the same argument.

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