head gasket repair in NC
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I lost faith in just about all dealerships - either they are cluless, overcharge you on parts and labor or screw up your car. I know some mechanics know what they are doing with LT5s but...
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Shawn, I've had the car just a few months, and I have no idea what coolant in in the car. I'm not sure if the tech did ANY kind of diagnosis on the car. He's supposed to be the "guru" in this area. To do a check of a blown head gasket, wouldn't you do a compression test, leakdown test or something like that? Thanks BTW - you a drummer?
FWIW, I don't believe the dealership AT ALL. If you have white smoke coming out of the tail pipe, I would lean toward coolant entering the combustion chamber.
Step 1: Do a pressure test on the cooling system. If it loses pressure, move on to step two.
Step 2: Remove all spark plugs from the cylinders and crank the engine over. You'll likely see water spurt out. If you do, something is allowing water into the cylinders. Move on to step three.
Step 3: Chemical test of the coolant. There's a kit you can buy that tests the coolant for combustion gasses. If it tests positive, it's more than likely a head gasket.
Johnny is completely competent to work on the LT5, he may be your best bet. If it's the head gaskets, it can probably be torn down in a good day's work and the heads sent to a machine shop to be resurfaced. While that's being done, clean everything up, check all connections in the valley under the plenum and either have the injectors flow tested or order a new set from FIC. Depending on Johnny's availability, you should be back on the road in a week.
Hell, depending on the timing, I might be able to head up there and lend a hand to a fellow ZR-1 owner!
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This is a no brainer, between Phrogs (Johnny) & Shawn you would be in good hands.
I would never trust my ZR-1 to a dealer. I do have a good friend that is a mechanic and he works on my car. He has had LT-5 training and has probably worked on more ZR-1s then most but its still not alot probably 20 or so. He is very smart though, an excellent wrench and careful too.
I think if you take it to anyone else besides phrogs or shawn, you are going to be looking at bills in the thousands when in reality, I think you could probably get it fixed worse case scenario under $1,000.
Good Luck.
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I would never trust my ZR-1 to a dealer. I do have a good friend that is a mechanic and he works on my car. He has had LT-5 training and has probably worked on more ZR-1s then most but its still not alot probably 20 or so. He is very smart though, an excellent wrench and careful too.
I think if you take it to anyone else besides phrogs or shawn, you are going to be looking at bills in the thousands when in reality, I think you could probably get it fixed worse case scenario under $1,000.
Good Luck.
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You won't go wrong dealing with Johnny(Phrogs). He could probably replace your coils for half what the dealership will charge.
At least make contact with him. $500 if it fixes the problem isn't terrible, but if it is beyond that you'll be spending lots of $$$$ that you wouldn't have to.
Johnny also understands the things you might want to do of a preventative nature while the plenum is off.
At least make contact with him. $500 if it fixes the problem isn't terrible, but if it is beyond that you'll be spending lots of $$$$ that you wouldn't have to.
Johnny also understands the things you might want to do of a preventative nature while the plenum is off.
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The more I read this:
, the more I lean toward that pesky MAP hose. Simple as can be and not one single bolt has to be turned to get your baby running perfect again!
seemed to be running on 4 cylinders and emited a lot of whitish-bluish smoke on startup.
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Brother since you are in Thomasville call up to Archdale to Mike's Corvette on hwy 311 if you want a corvette specialist. Go up 62 and turn right on 311 and it will be on a side street on the left. you will see all the vettes outside covered up.
Local mechanics are at 55.00 bucks an hour for labor. Dealerships are at 95.00 bucks per hour with a 105.00 dollar diagnostic fee. There is also a guy in Thomasville that will come to you if needed. I saw his ad on craigslist.
Local mechanics are at 55.00 bucks an hour for labor. Dealerships are at 95.00 bucks per hour with a 105.00 dollar diagnostic fee. There is also a guy in Thomasville that will come to you if needed. I saw his ad on craigslist.
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Brother since you are in Thomasville call up to Archdale to Mike's Corvette on hwy 311 if you want a corvette specialist. Go up 62 and turn right on 311 and it will be on a side street on the left. you will see all the vettes outside covered up.
Local mechanics are at 55.00 bucks an hour for labor. Dealerships are at 95.00 bucks per hour with a 105.00 dollar diagnostic fee. There is also a guy in Thomasville that will come to you if needed. I saw his ad on craigslist.
Local mechanics are at 55.00 bucks an hour for labor. Dealerships are at 95.00 bucks per hour with a 105.00 dollar diagnostic fee. There is also a guy in Thomasville that will come to you if needed. I saw his ad on craigslist.
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All depends on if they have LT5 experience. I believe this is the reason he is in the situation he is in now the idiot that worked on it should have been man enough to say he didn't know what he was doing.
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Of course, I am assuming that your offer to help this guy still stands.
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Hey guys. an interesting development! Terry Labonte Chev just called and said they didn't think it was a head gasket at all! I didn't think so. It seems #2 and #4 cylinders aren't firing. They think it could be a coil pack. $500 to take the plenum off and put back on. Beats $5000. I'll keep you guys posted. Thanks!
Jerry has your gaskets and you can swap plug wires while you're at it. DIY in a afternoon easy!
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the latest!
Gentlemen, here's the latest. I picked up the ZR1 and it runs good. Not great, but good. No smoke, or any of the other stuff it was doing except, it hesitates when you punch the go pedal in full power mode, and doesn't pull to redline as good as it did when I got it. I need to get in touch with Jim Van Dorn or Phrogs to get an idea what's wrong now. The dealer replaced the plenum gaskets and a coil pack. Parts were fairly cheap. The labor? What do you think? Live and learn. I am so glad to have you guys to help me with this car. If the car hadn't been torn down at the dealership, I would have gotten it out of there and called Johnny. i really do l;ove this car and can't see me selling it. Thanks again for all your help. Any ideas about the hesitation would be appreciated. Have a great night!
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Gentlemen, here's the latest. I picked up the ZR1 and it runs good. Not great, but good. No smoke, or any of the other stuff it was doing except, it hesitates when you punch the go pedal in full power mode, and doesn't pull to redline as good as it did when I got it. I need to get in touch with Jim Van Dorn or Phrogs to get an idea what's wrong now. The dealer replaced the plenum gaskets and a coil pack. Parts were fairly cheap. The labor? What do you think? Live and learn. I am so glad to have you guys to help me with this car. If the car hadn't been torn down at the dealership, I would have gotten it out of there and called Johnny. i really do l;ove this car and can't see me selling it. Thanks again for all your help. Any ideas about the hesitation would be appreciated. Have a great night!
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Just saw this post as I don't venture over here much anymore. If you make it to the coast, let me know and I'll show you some things if you want to learn. $500 for a plenum pull is a lot. I would owe myself big bucks if I paid myself every time I pulled a plenum.
I'm not equipped to do head gaskets on an LT5, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night and have helped Phrogs tear apart an LT5 or two.
I'm not equipped to do head gaskets on an LT5, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night and have helped Phrogs tear apart an LT5 or two.
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I'd follow up on that coolant if I were you. make sure you don't have the orange death in there. If you do it will require a very good flush and replacement with new NON-long life green stuff.
Your present lack of performance sounds like vacuum leak(s). When you first turn the key to "on" how long does it take for the vacuum pump to stop running...and how often does it come back on?
Your present lack of performance sounds like vacuum leak(s). When you first turn the key to "on" how long does it take for the vacuum pump to stop running...and how often does it come back on?