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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 12:31 AM
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You think a ProCharger has fewer drawbacks than twin turbos?

Let me guess, you voted for Bush.

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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 06:46 AM
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You think a ProCharger has fewer drawbacks than twin turbos?

Let me guess, you voted for Bush.

OK then, clue me in o wise one.
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mdhmi
You think a ProCharger has fewer drawbacks than twin turbos?

Let me guess, you voted for Bush.


Bush has twins
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyZ78
OK then, clue me in o wise one.
Centrifugal superchargers make less power under the curve, meaning they spool more slowly.. Superchargers also over tax everything that rides on the accessory belt, meaning idlers, pulleys, bearings, etc wear out. I'm not going to even go into belt slipage, chuckage, or tossage.

Turbos, on the other hand, are perfect in every way.

Oh yea, and superchargers are no less expensive than twin turbos, thanks to TTi's most recent offering: Stage X Lite.
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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So, lets say, I have a boost leak on a supercharger.....easy fix without a lift.

So lets say I have a boost leak on a twin turbo car....not that easy of a fix considering I don't have a lift, and can't work on my car at my shop, or my condo; therefore having to take it to the installer when I can.

I'm a busy guy and I don't want to be f'n around with **** right now, so the s/c just seems to make sense. I do love turbo's, don't get me wrong. I worked/modified my father's SRT-4 and raced it, so yes, turbo's are not new to me. I just think this would be an easier approach for the money I want to spend right now.
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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What's complicated is putting on one of those damn accessory belts. I remember my tuner having to make a house call to put a belt on my D-1SC after two gifted engineers (myself and my partner in crime) couldn't figure it out.
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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I've been working on cars/trucks/diesels etc for years and years. I worked on BMW's for 4 years, I have no problem figuring stuff out. I'm not worried. Thanks for the concern though
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyZ78
So, lets say, I have a boost leak on a supercharger.....easy fix without a lift.

So lets say I have a boost leak on a twin turbo car....not that easy of a fix considering I don't have a lift, and can't work on my car at my shop, or my condo; therefore having to take it to the installer when I can.

I'm a busy guy and I don't want to be f'n around with **** right now, so the s/c just seems to make sense. I do love turbo's, don't get me wrong. I worked/modified my father's SRT-4 and raced it, so yes, turbo's are not new to me. I just think this would be an easier approach for the money I want to spend right now.
...sounds like a S/C is the right call for you then.
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I've been working on cars/trucks/diesels etc for years and years. I worked on BMW's for 4 years, I have no problem figuring stuff out. I'm not worried. Thanks for the concern though
Actually... don't take mdhmi's comment lightly about replacing accessory belts. Remember, it's not just a simple belt routing problem when you have a blower on there -- you often have to deal with pulleys or brackets or head units coming off to get the belt on, plus some of the techniques used to keep the belts tight almost require two people to swap a belt.

Overall I'd say you're definitely in for less complexity with a blower but I do hope that you are able to get your belt lined up right if you are looking for little/no maintenance.

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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyZ78
So, lets say, I have a boost leak on a supercharger.....easy fix without a lift.

So lets say I have a boost leak on a twin turbo car....not that easy of a fix considering I don't have a lift, and can't work on my car at my shop, or my condo; therefore having to take it to the installer when I can.

I'm a busy guy and I don't want to be f'n around with **** right now, so the s/c just seems to make sense. I do love turbo's, don't get me wrong. I worked/modified my father's SRT-4 and raced it, so yes, turbo's are not new to me. I just think this would be an easier approach for the money I want to spend right now.

If you are dead set on going with a belt driven solution,
I would serioulsy consider the Kenne Bell.

Personally, I prefer turbos.
But,
the low end boost delivery of the Kenne Bell is second to none and it will allow you to run big boost down the road if you choose.
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyZ78
So, lets say, I have a boost leak on a supercharger.....easy fix without a lift.

So lets say I have a boost leak on a twin turbo car....not that easy of a fix considering I don't have a lift, and can't work on my car at my shop, or my condo; therefore having to take it to the installer when I can.

I'm a busy guy and I don't want to be f'n around with **** right now, so the s/c just seems to make sense. I do love turbo's, don't get me wrong. I worked/modified my father's SRT-4 and raced it, so yes, turbo's are not new to me. I just think this would be an easier approach for the money I want to spend right now.

Not all twins require a lift.. but, if you want to compromise for "easy as hell" boost leaks are almost non-existent in mags or kb's. They're all good so just go for it
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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I like the kb too, but I get a better deal on the D1SC. ugh, thanks for the comments guys, criticism (constructive and not )
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyZ78
So, lets say, I have a boost leak on a supercharger.....easy fix without a lift.

So lets say I have a boost leak on a twin turbo car....not that easy of a fix considering I don't have a lift, and can't work on my car at my shop, or my condo; therefore having to take it to the installer when I can.

I'm a busy guy and I don't want to be f'n around with **** right now, so the s/c just seems to make sense. I do love turbo's, don't get me wrong. I worked/modified my father's SRT-4 and raced it, so yes, turbo's are not new to me. I just think this would be an easier approach for the money I want to spend right now.
Do what you wish - but reread this thread a few times. The guys on here who have turbos................99% had some sort of supercharger first. Take that how you will.
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DDSLT5
The guys on here who have turbos................99% had some sort of supercharger first. Take that how you will.
100% of heroin users started out on milk.
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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That is true....hmm.

As far as alignment goes, I have a machinist at my disposal, so that will help
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Originally Posted by DDSLT5
Do what you wish - but reread this thread a few times. The guys on here who have turbos................99% had some sort of supercharger first. Take that how you will.
Yep, count me in on that group. Been there, done that.
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Here's my question: those of you who claim to have went from Supercharger to TT, prior to this decision, were you using brackets and pulleys from some of the reputable vendors on this site? (A&A, ECS, ...) and what are the most common maintenance issues with TT's?
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Originally Posted by ViciousVette
and what are the most common maintenance issues with TT's?
Tires, driveline parts oh and the mandatory switch to an A4
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Tires, driveline parts oh and the mandatory switch to an A4
Why would the A4 switch be mandatory? Any other maintanance issues with turbos?
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