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I run my external pump off a boost switch. It only come on at about 4# boost. I put a check valve in the factory feed line so it can't backfeed and overpower the in tank pump.
The regulator we use will jack the pressure up to 85 PSI if needed.
I use stock rails with a return line coming out the end where the boost gauge would normally mount. It works great.
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Good luck. Polarity would be a simple problem with a simple solution.
Not if this is true:
Originally Posted by diynoob
Finally, when Mike and I spoke, he said the car would run fine and hold pressure for about an hour and then lose its ability to hold pressure. This particularly sounds like a heating issue.
If it were pump polarity it would do it all the time, no?
Hey Nick do run both pumps run at the same time or is one triggered by a hobbs valve under boost? What about the ill effects of running no bucket? I know this is what all the f-body guys use with lots of success!
If it were pump polarity it would do it all the time, no?
Does the in-tank run with the polarity reversed? If the car was basically running solely on the Bosch pump or predominantly on the Bosch pump, then I could see there being enough fuel after fixing the in-tank pump.
If the Bosch were running only off boost or a pedal switch, Mike likely would have known sooner that the OEM pump was setup incorrectly.
Intank pump was backwards. It would suck instead of push. I will connect correctly and test. I am also intalling a swith to ingage the Bosch pump on boost starting at about 4 psi. Hopefull will be running later on tonight.
Intank pump was backwards. It would suck instead of push. I will connect correctly and test. I am also intalling a swith to ingage the Bosch pump on boost starting at about 4 psi. Hopefull will be running later on tonight.
Intank pump was backwards. It would suck instead of push. I will connect correctly and test. I am also intalling a swith to ingage the Bosch pump on boost starting at about 4 psi. Hopefull will be running later on tonight.
Sweet!! With those two changes, his car will have rock solid fuel pressure once again!
Which pressure switch are you going to run? Coolingmist.com has a few nice ones for their alky kit, adjustable from 1-25psi I think.
Good luck guys!! I know how much fueling issues can drive you crazy. I lived with them for years until I got my ECS kit, now I never worry about fuel pressure... ever.
Does anyone worry about the fact that the new style ECS f/p is mounted on the outside of the frame rail? I like the older setup, even thow it is close to the cat-back isn't it is safer? BTW I run racetronix/BAP and the ECS older style set up. No drop off, @ 6500 I see over 70psi with the boost reference, and this is a street driven car. Then again it has not been warmer then 60 yet.
Does anyone worry about the fact that the new style ECS f/p is mounted on the outside of the frame rail? I like the older setup, even thow it is close to the cat-back isn't it is safer? BTW I run racetronix/BAP and the ECS older style set up. No drop off, @ 6500 I see over 70psi with the boost reference, and this is a street driven car. Then again it has not been warmer then 60 yet.
Nah, what's there to worry about? If you took a direct hit on the fuel pump, there's not enough fuel in it to do anything damaging IMHO. I'd be more worried about what's happening to the gas tank behind the frame in a direct hit, or all those fittings dripping fuel onto a hot exhaust (accident or not) with the pump mounted inside the frame.
Have you daily driven that car in 95+ degree weather? I had so many issues with fuel pressure once it got hot down here that I never bothered to mount my ECS pump inside the frame rail, even when this was common place. I think I was one of the first to mount it outside the frame rail, and it has worked beautifully there. But I honestly don't know if *this setup* would have been fine inside the frame rail, which is why I ask if you have driven yours a lot in hot weather.
I know that plenty other setups, including beefy Aeromotive pumps, a high output pump from SX Performance, and twin Walbros *did not* like the heat inside the frame rail and *did not* like to push large amounts of fuel for an extended time when the summer rolled around down here. They would all lose fuel pressure after some period of time.
Last edited by Tony @ MPH; Mar 11, 2007 at 11:43 AM.
Does anyone worry about the fact that the new style ECS f/p is mounted on the outside of the frame rail? I like the older setup, even thow it is close to the cat-back isn't it is safer? BTW I run racetronix/BAP and the ECS older style set up. No drop off, @ 6500 I see over 70psi with the boost reference, and this is a street driven car. Then again it has not been warmer then 60 yet.
I admitt, I do not have the sustained heat like you. I have not even tested my ECS old set up against the heat that the No. East brings, but my thoughts on my post were on safety. However I guess you got to do - what you got to do, and hope for the best. I have a question, are you guys running a boost referenced regulators?
I admitt, I do not have the sustained heat like you. I have not even tested my ECS old set up against the heat that the No. East brings, but my thoughts on my post were on safety. However I guess you got to do - what you got to do, and hope for the best. I have a question, are you guys running a boost referenced regulators?
My regulator has the connection but I'm not using it as recomended by ECS.
Well Arnold pulled the intank pump and swap the polarity on the wires and looks like we have 2 working pumps now, the next step is call Cory and head to the Dyno on Thursday! ! ! Im still going to go with a Check Valve and a vacum switch so I dont have to run the External Pump all the time! ! !
What this means is that Peterpan will no longer have more RWHP than me! ! !
Well Arnold pulled the intank pump and swap the polarity on the wires and looks like we have 2 working pumps now, the next step is call Cory and head to the Dyno on Thursday! ! ! Im still going to go with a Check Valve and a vacum switch so I dont have to run the External Pump all the time! ! !
What this means is that Peterpan will no longer have more RWHP than me! ! !
Good stuff Mike!! Really am happy for you that this is getting straightened out.