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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by C5VERTMAN
procharger stage II caint go wrong with this kit either.
Very true! When ATI ProCharger began work on their C6 kits, they redesigned the bracket assembly, making it much better than what they had on the C5 kits. They incorporated this bracket into the C5 kits, and it part of the Stage 11 kits for the C5 Corvettes.
This Stage 11 D-1SC ProCharger kit is what we use on many of our C5 installs, and is what we used on this C5. http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=40

Here is our fully installed price with the D-1SC kit.
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=879
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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For superchargers, First choice ECS Paxton, Second choice A&A Vortech, Third choice KenneBell...There is no forth choice...
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Why do people bash procharger so much ? before ecs and a&a had their disagreement with the ati procharger people everyone would talk wonders about the the procharger blower ofcourse with the a&a & ecs mod . not because i own one but even if i didnt i would still go with the procharger due to the fact that they have been around for years on c5's and still kicking butt, very reliable, make tons of power even with the base p1sc and has its own oiling system . just my .02

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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by chriswtx
For superchargers, First choice ECS Paxton, Second choice A&A Vortech, Third choice KenneBell...There is no forth choice...
Buying a ProCharger stage 2 kit from EPP is definately a viable option. We all know why ProCharger is a dirty word around here and it no longer has anything to do with the actual product, because the stage 2 kit is on par with the other available options, and ProCharger has always had the best head units. Their customer service, customer relations, and the way they treated A&A and ECS in an underhanded and frankly disgusting manner is the issue. But you can't go wrong with EPP. Lets be sure to make the proper distinction here between good vendors who sell the kit and will stand behind their customers, and ProCharger themselves.

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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by procharged_z06
Why do people bash procharger so much ? before ecs and a&a had their disagreement with the ati procharger people everyone would talk wonders about the the procharger blower ofcourse with the a&a & ecs mod . not because i own one but even if i didnt i would still go with the procharger due to the fact that they have been around for years and still kicking butt, very reliable, make tons of power even with the base p1sc and has its own oiling system . just my .02

Just an FYI,
Procharger has not been around 1/4 as long as Paxton.


and then there is the results from both.......
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
Just an FYI,
Procharger has not been around 1/4 as long as Paxton.


and then there is the results from both.......
You are right , sorry i meant being used on the c5 . also if you would please explain to me when you tell me that these head units make more power than the procharger which head unit are you talking about ? the p1sc , d1sc or the f1r ? what category would the novi 2000 be compatible with ? the d1sc or the f1r ? i guess the p1sc would make more power then a novi 1000.

PS. i need a procharger bracket do you have in stock at the moment?
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Just go Vortech, and forget about the others!!
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Originally Posted by slik_z06
As stated before, there are great reviews for both ECS and A&A. I went with the A&A kit using a Procharger D1SC unit. WARNING: the whistle is LOUD. so if you're not into being noticed, I wouldn't recommend a Procharger unit. For me, I love it when people a block away hear me coming. :-)
Love my A&A DS1C that I put on before either A&A or ECS started using new head units and I also like to announce my arrival
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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I had talked to procharger direct, they are of no help whatsoever. chris at ecs is a great help. any problems from either ecs or procharger on being reliable?? Thanks
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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I had talked to procharger direct, they are of no help whatsoever. chris at ecs is a great help. any problems from either ecs or procharger on being reliable?? Thanks
If your new to FI, go with ECS since your in Ohio and closer to the East Coast. You'll have questions after the install and ATI cant help much with anything but tech help on the SC kit itself. They cant tell you why your getting a check engine light God forbid it ever happen.

I've got ATI's D1SC and have had nothing but great support from ATI. I've had questions about the kit itself and they have been great on the phone.

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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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I had talked to procharger direct, they are of no help whatsoever. chris at ecs is a great help. any problems from either ecs or procharger on being reliable?? Thanks
Not defending ati but remember they sell parts ( blowers ) for not only corvettes they make for alot of cars and even boats . they gave me great tech help on their product itself . remember they are not "corvette" techs. im guessing you call vortech or paxton and you will get they same service . no one better then A&A or ECS . Does paxton itself even make a kit for the c5 ? other than the one that ecs makes for them . i know vortech does, is there any difference on the vortech engineering kit from andys kit ?

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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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Not defending ati but remember they sell parts ( blowers ) for not only corvettes they make for alot of cars and even boats . they gave me great tech help on their product itself . remember they are not "corvette" techs. im guessing you call vortech or paxton and you will get they same service . no one better then A&A or ECS . Does paxton itself even make a kit for the c5 ? other than the one that ecs makes for them . i know vortech does, is there any difference on the vortech engineering kit from andys kit ?
When we signed on with Paxton we made sure they would not make a C5/C6 kit so we did not end up in the same boat as with ATI. Fortunately they already had that agreement with Vortech not to make it so it was not an issue.
Andy's kit is different from Vortech's kit, I do not have much experience with either so I do not know what the differences are though.
Thanks for the compliment on service, Paxton would send you directly to us, I imagine Vortech would send people to Andy. I have always told customers that it is best to go to a shop that specializes, whether it be Mustangs, Vettes or Chevettes. Go to a shop that knows all the ins and outs even if it's a farther drive. It's worth it in the long run.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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Hey Guys I need help! I have a Procharger D1SC - it is the old style set-up! One of the 1st kit's that came out I guess. My bottom pulley is worn out. Procharger won't sell me just the pulley! They want me to buy whole new kit. I'm wondering if anyone has one of Andy's bracket somewhere that I could buy? If so please let me know ASAP. I am suppose to drive the Big Bend Open Road Race @ the end of the month so time is of the essence. Thanks Joe
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
When we signed on with Paxton we made sure they would not make a C5/C6 kit so we did not end up in the same boat as with ATI. Fortunately they already had that agreement with Vortech not to make it so it was not an issue.
Andy's kit is different from Vortech's kit, I do not have much experience with either so I do not know what the differences are though.
Thanks for the compliment on service, Paxton would send you directly to us, I imagine Vortech would send people to Andy. I have always told customers that it is best to go to a shop that specializes, whether it be Mustangs, Vettes or Chevettes. Go to a shop that knows all the ins and outs even if it's a farther drive. It's worth it in the long run.
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
When we signed on with Paxton we made sure they would not make a C5/C6 kit so we did not end up in the same boat as with ATI. Fortunately they already had that agreement with Vortech not to make it so it was not an issue.
Andy's kit is different from Vortech's kit, I do not have much experience with either so I do not know what the differences are though.
Thanks for the compliment on service, Paxton would send you directly to us, I imagine Vortech would send people to Andy. I have always told customers that it is best to go to a shop that specializes, whether it be Mustangs, Vettes or Chevettes. Go to a shop that knows all the ins and outs even if it's a farther drive. It's worth it in the long run.
Does that mean you will pimp out my Chevette for me Doug? ;-)

Seriously, It comes down to preference. I know the ECS Procharger setup was the hot ticket for a long time. It made great power but wasn't for everyone due to the noise you got from the gear drive. The Paxton is capable of the similar performance and is quieter. Chris and Doug have done thier homework and the kit performs great. Thier customer service is awesome and they won't try to sell you something you don't need. You cannot go wrong with them. These guys are a class act. Ask any of thier customers and they will all say the same thing.

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I talked with Bob at EPP today, was very professional. I did learn alot about Procharger kit's today. Seems like ECC and EPP are very good outfit's. Just personal preference's on which kit to choose, both Paxton and Procharger have proven themselves. Now comes decision time. I spent less time picking a house to build!!
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 01ebonyC5
Hey Guys I need help! I have a Procharger D1SC - it is the old style set-up! One of the 1st kit's that came out I guess. My bottom pulley is worn out. Procharger won't sell me just the pulley! They want me to buy whole new kit. I'm wondering if anyone has one of Andy's bracket somewhere that I could buy? If so please let me know ASAP. I am suppose to drive the Big Bend Open Road Race @ the end of the month so time is of the essence. Thanks Joe
Yet another example of fine ATI ProCharger customer service.

Sorry about your misfortune. Maybe an aftermarket pulley manufacturer could make one for you if you sent them the worn pulley?
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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Thanks for your info, everyone's input is much helpful beyond belief. It's very, very helpful to be able to use a forum like this. thanks again.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
Just an FYI,
Procharger has not been around 1/4 as long as Paxton.


and then there is the results from both.......

Yep your right there Doug but are you saying that you would put a ball drive blower on your car-maybe a SN-93 or a VR-4? I think not-don't forget who own's Paxton after JR sold the company.
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