28" slick reducing my gear ratio???
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Melting Slicks
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28" slick reducing my gear ratio???
I am finally starting to get these 28" tires under my car. How much is this going to effect my gear ratio? Should I start looking for a 3.90 gear?
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if you're running the stock 3.42 rear its going to hurt you big time.
I forget the exact numbers but you would be in the 160MPH range IIRC at the end of 4th gear with that size tire.
unless you're making over 1000whp or have shorter gearing then 3.42 you don't want that sized tire.
I forget the exact numbers but you would be in the 160MPH range IIRC at the end of 4th gear with that size tire.
unless you're making over 1000whp or have shorter gearing then 3.42 you don't want that sized tire.
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Based on mn6 ratios, with a 3.42 rear diff, 26" tire,
your current mph@6500 rpm in each gear equates to
1st 55
2nd 83
3rd 113
4th 147
With the 3.90's and 28" tire,
1st 52
2nd 78
3rd 107
4th 139
You didn't specify which gear you currently have, but this info should help.
I agree that 3.42's with a 28" tire will make 4th too tall, and puts top end in 4th right at 158-160 @ 6500 rpm.
your current mph@6500 rpm in each gear equates to
1st 55
2nd 83
3rd 113
4th 147
With the 3.90's and 28" tire,
1st 52
2nd 78
3rd 107
4th 139
You didn't specify which gear you currently have, but this info should help.
I agree that 3.42's with a 28" tire will make 4th too tall, and puts top end in 4th right at 158-160 @ 6500 rpm.
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Based on mn6 ratios, with a 3.42 rear diff, 26" tire,
your current mph@6500 rpm in each gear equates to
1st 55
2nd 83
3rd 113
4th 147
With the 3.90's and 28" tire,
1st 52
2nd 78
3rd 107
4th 139
You didn't specify which gear you currently have, but this info should help.
I agree that 3.42's with a 28" tire will make 4th too tall, and puts top end in 4th right at 158-160 @ 6500 rpm.
your current mph@6500 rpm in each gear equates to
1st 55
2nd 83
3rd 113
4th 147
With the 3.90's and 28" tire,
1st 52
2nd 78
3rd 107
4th 139
You didn't specify which gear you currently have, but this info should help.
I agree that 3.42's with a 28" tire will make 4th too tall, and puts top end in 4th right at 158-160 @ 6500 rpm.
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Well, I don't spend alot of time at the drags, but I think the 3.90 with the 28" tire may help your e.t., depending on how much power you are making.
You'll run out 3rd and 4th quicker, so it may be a benefit.
With the overdrive 5th and 6th, highway driving will still be pleasureable, if that is a consideration.
Hopefully you'll get more direct feedback on this potential change from someone who has done it.
You'll run out 3rd and 4th quicker, so it may be a benefit.
With the overdrive 5th and 6th, highway driving will still be pleasureable, if that is a consideration.
Hopefully you'll get more direct feedback on this potential change from someone who has done it.
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I agree, that might work out with a boosted car.
Being able to run 1st to 60mph might be a good thing.
Just note that with 3.17 and 26" tire, 2nd thru 4th become
2nd 89mph
3rd 122
4th 158
You'll end up shifting into 4th very late.
I would think it would be best to shift into 4th as close to or slightly earlier than the 1/8th mile point.
Again, depends on power level.
Last edited by vrybad; 09-05-2008 at 05:18 PM.
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Anyone have any hard on paper esults running a hugher HP FI car both ways on the same gearset(3.42) ? I would love to have more traction and think the 28s would help off the line.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
A 26" tire with a 3:42 is optimum for a 10.5 or slower car.If you are going faster then that then the 28" wouldn't hurt you that much as long as the car has big power and leaves hard.I know some one running 9.80s with a 3:42 and a 26" and went to a 28" and picked up nothing in the 60'.If you are going slower then 10.5 or so you will need more gear to make up for the 28" tire.IMO.
Good luck.
Good luck.
#12
Burning Brakes
How well does the 28" slick fit under the wheel well? Curious maybe consider the 28 inch slick for myself. I am currently on a 26 with 3:90 gear and trapping just a the rev limiter 4th sometimes just in it some. It all depends on wheel spin and making sure hit my shifts at max rpm to keep it out of the limiter when I hit the trap.
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How well does the 28" slick fit under the wheel well? Curious maybe consider the 28 inch slick for myself. I am currently on a 26 with 3:90 gear and trapping just a the rev limiter 4th sometimes just in it some. It all depends on wheel spin and making sure hit my shifts at max rpm to keep it out of the limiter when I hit the trap.
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A 26" tire with a 3:42 is optimum for a 10.5 or slower car.If you are going faster then that then the 28" wouldn't hurt you that much as long as the car has big power and leaves hard.I know some one running 9.80s with a 3:42 and a 26" and went to a 28" and picked up nothing in the 60'.If you are going slower then 10.5 or so you will need more gear to make up for the 28" tire.IMO.
Good luck.
Good luck.
keeping in mind that you want to be just about on the rev limiter in 4th gear while finishing the 1320', in order to use all your available power, and the trap speed at most tracks is an average of the last 66':
with a 3.42 rear:
a 26" tire will net you 147mph @ 6500RPM
a 28" tire will net you 163mph @ 6500RPM
with a 3.73 rear:
a 26" tire will net you 135mph @ 6500RPM
a 28" tire will net you 147mph @ 6500RPM
so running a 3.42 rear with a 26" tire is basically the same gearing as running a 3.73 rear with a 28" tire.
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Burning Brakes
Thanks, think I am gonna have my rev limiter bumped up 200 rpm that should give me some room. The cam was speced to be at 7K so looks like its going that way...
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
I'd have to disagree with that statement. you wouldn't want to run a 28" tire with a 3.42 rear unless you were making BIG power. IMO, 26" tire would be optium for anyone who is high 9's and slower with the 3.42 rear.
keeping in mind that you want to be just about on the rev limiter in 4th gear while finishing the 1320', in order to use all your available power, and the trap speed at most tracks is an average of the last 66':
with a 3.42 rear:
a 26" tire will net you 147mph @ 6500RPM
a 28" tire will net you 163mph @ 6500RPM
with a 3.73 rear:
a 26" tire will net you 135mph @ 6500RPM
a 28" tire will net you 147mph @ 6500RPM
so running a 3.42 rear with a 26" tire is basically the same gearing as running a 3.73 rear with a 28" tire.
keeping in mind that you want to be just about on the rev limiter in 4th gear while finishing the 1320', in order to use all your available power, and the trap speed at most tracks is an average of the last 66':
with a 3.42 rear:
a 26" tire will net you 147mph @ 6500RPM
a 28" tire will net you 163mph @ 6500RPM
with a 3.73 rear:
a 26" tire will net you 135mph @ 6500RPM
a 28" tire will net you 147mph @ 6500RPM
so running a 3.42 rear with a 26" tire is basically the same gearing as running a 3.73 rear with a 28" tire.
Take care.
Last edited by 396375; 09-08-2008 at 12:05 AM.
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I don't think you would see a big difference in your ET with either setup as long as the car hooks.Obviously the 28" tire will hook a lot better with a larger tire patch on the track then the 26" tire.Gettting deeper in the nines would be hard on the 26" tire even though there are guys who have done it.It all depends on how fast you plan on going.I have never seen a big reduction in ET with a step up or down with the next ratio in a gear change.Going threw the lights at the exact rpm you are looking for is great but getting the car to cut a better 60' has always been more important to your ET.What is your combo Always in Boost?
Take care.
Take care.
a 26" tire is enough contact patch to pull low low 1.4 sec 60's and maybe even some 1.3's, although I don't know of anyone who has gone THAT low on a 26" tire. Its all about the right setup. take a look at robz car, 4.10 rear & 28" tires, he is using all his available power for the whole 1320' and running low low 10's.
my combo is in my sig, let me know if you have questions.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
396375, you would see a difference in ET & MPH with that tall of a tire because the car would be way out of its powerband at the end of the track. basically it would make the gearing too tall with a 3.42 rear unless you had a TON of power to trap in the low 160's.
a 26" tire is enough contact patch to pull low low 1.4 sec 60's and maybe even some 1.3's, although I don't know of anyone who has gone THAT low on a 26" tire. Its all about the right setup. take a look at robz car, 4.10 rear & 28" tires, he is using all his available power for the whole 1320' and running low low 10's.
my combo is in my sig, let me know if you have questions.
a 26" tire is enough contact patch to pull low low 1.4 sec 60's and maybe even some 1.3's, although I don't know of anyone who has gone THAT low on a 26" tire. Its all about the right setup. take a look at robz car, 4.10 rear & 28" tires, he is using all his available power for the whole 1320' and running low low 10's.
my combo is in my sig, let me know if you have questions.
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Melting Slicks
I will tell you this I have a Kene Bell 2.8 on stock motor making nearly 600rwh with my 28 inch drag pack it bogs pretty hard out of the hole. 1.60 60ft and on the dyno in 4th gear I hit 172mph running to 6800rpm. this is all with a 3.42 gear. I have a set of 3.90 for mine.