is a procharger actually just a belt driven turbo charger?
10-09-2010, 12:13 AM
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Racer
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is a procharger actually just a belt driven turbo charger?
Please... no laughing (or snickerin).... and forgive the rookie question but… is a procharger actually just a belt driven turbo charger?
I'm asking the question because I have these ongoing conversations with a guy at work that is from the “turbo only” school of thought about how someday I am going to install a super charger on the Vette and he always steers me towards the turbo technology, which I am convinced of now to be quite impressive and not to be poo-poo’d… but told me today he ‘approved’ of my plans because a procharger is actually a belt driven turbo charger… now I’m confused
Can anyone elaborate?
I'm asking the question because I have these ongoing conversations with a guy at work that is from the “turbo only” school of thought about how someday I am going to install a super charger on the Vette and he always steers me towards the turbo technology, which I am convinced of now to be quite impressive and not to be poo-poo’d… but told me today he ‘approved’ of my plans because a procharger is actually a belt driven turbo charger… now I’m confused
Can anyone elaborate?
10-09-2010, 12:24 AM
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St. Jude Donor '08
Or is a Turbocharger just a exhaust driven supercharger?
Seriously, each unit is basically differentiated by the method it creates compressed air. Obviously, you know that a supercharger is belt driven and a turbo is powered by exhaust so I think your buddy's statement is invalid and should ask him what i posted above.
Im sure more technical responses will ensue......
Seriously, each unit is basically differentiated by the method it creates compressed air. Obviously, you know that a supercharger is belt driven and a turbo is powered by exhaust so I think your buddy's statement is invalid and should ask him what i posted above.
Im sure more technical responses will ensue......
10-09-2010, 12:55 AM
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He must be an import/4 banger guy....
In the import world...the only way to make power is with a turbocharger. Us V8 guys are lucky because virtually everything makes great power for us
To answer your question...your friend is a moron
In the import world...the only way to make power is with a turbocharger. Us V8 guys are lucky because virtually everything makes great power for us
To answer your question...your friend is a moron
10-09-2010, 11:39 AM
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Racer
Or is a Turbocharger just a exhaust driven supercharger?
Im sure more technical responses will ensue......
Exactly. They are generic current terms. At one time "turbos" were known as "Turbo-superchargers". Both are forced induction, both achieve higher than atmospheric cylinder pressure when the valves close (supercharging). A turbo derives it's name from being turbine driven, by expanding exhaust gases. The name "Supercharger" is commonly reserved for those that are mechanically driven whether centri or roots style (positive displacement) forced induction units. But both are in-fact "Superchargers"
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10-09-2010, 01:31 PM
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Racer
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sooo... would this be a true statement then?
whether it's an exhaust, belt or mechanically driven charger, they are all super chargers
-M
whether it's an exhaust, belt or mechanically driven charger, they are all super chargers
-M
Last edited by Lil Blue Coupe; 10-09-2010 at 01:53 PM.
10-09-2010, 02:20 PM
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Burning Brakes
10-09-2010, 02:27 PM
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Racer
And Wiki;
A turbocharger, or turbo, is a gas compressor that is used for forced induction of an internal combustion engine. A form of supercharger, the turbocharger increases the density of air entering the engine to create more power. A turbocharger has the compressor powered by a turbine which is driven by the engine's own exhaust gases rather than direct mechanical drive. This allows a turbocharger to achieve a higher degree of efficiency than other types of forced induction compressors which are more vulnerable to parasitic loss.
Early manufacturers of turbochargers referred to them as "turbosuperchargers". A supercharger is an air compressor used for forced induction of an engine. Logically then, adding a turbine to turn the supercharger would yield a "turbosupercharger". However, the term was soon shortened to "turbocharger". This is now a source of confusion, as the term "turbosupercharged" is sometimes used to refer to an engine that uses both a crankshaft-driven supercharger and an exhaust-driven turbocharger, often referred to as twincharging.
Last edited by RIKKITIK; 10-09-2010 at 02:38 PM.
10-09-2010, 04:56 PM
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I disagree.
If his friend said a Maggie (roots blower for the OP) was a turbo driven by a belt, I would agree with you that he's an idiot, but the compressor wheel and volute on the centrifugals is the same as you will find on the turbos, so it truly is the equivalent of the compressor side from a rather large turbo but is gear and belt driven.
If his friend said a Maggie (roots blower for the OP) was a turbo driven by a belt, I would agree with you that he's an idiot, but the compressor wheel and volute on the centrifugals is the same as you will find on the turbos, so it truly is the equivalent of the compressor side from a rather large turbo but is gear and belt driven.
10-09-2010, 05:23 PM
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Burning Brakes
I disagree.
If his friend said a Maggie (roots blower for the OP) was a turbo driven by a belt, I would agree with you that he's an idiot, but the compressor wheel and volute on the centrifugals is the same as you will find on the turbos, so it truly is the equivalent of the compressor side from a rather large turbo but is gear and belt driven.
If his friend said a Maggie (roots blower for the OP) was a turbo driven by a belt, I would agree with you that he's an idiot, but the compressor wheel and volute on the centrifugals is the same as you will find on the turbos, so it truly is the equivalent of the compressor side from a rather large turbo but is gear and belt driven.
Well Said.
07-17-2017, 02:21 AM
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The difference
To help OP, a turbo crates more boost, but takes longer to build the boost. A super charger, which was the first booster created, creates less boost per volume, but builds boost faster, and more bottom end torque.
07-17-2017, 12:45 PM
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Melting Slicks
07-18-2017, 07:35 AM
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Melting Slicks
Good call, didn't even notice the dates on the posts prior to his.
07-18-2017, 04:27 PM
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Melting Slicks
Omg it's the fireball Camaro dude from street outlaws!!!
