Strange wear on torque tube
#1
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Strange wear on torque tube
I had a custom built driveshaft done at the Driveshaft Shop. It's a 3.5" with billet ends and I'm also using their Urethane couplers.
I was taking the torque tube apart to replace the bearings for the heck of it and discovered some very strange wear on the couplers.
Wondering if anyone has ever seen this before. What baffles me is the uniform wear 120 degrees apart from one another and the fact that the wear is so close to the bearing support. I have never felt even the slightest vibration from my car. Considering the prop shaft spins the same RPM as the motor (unlike a driveshaft only spinning a fraction of the speed), I would expect enough vibration to throw me out of the car if anything was off by the amount of wear shown. I am measuring 4.410 across the coupler and 4.340 across one wear spot. That's .070"!
The only thing I can come up with is the couplers are getting hot and distorted at high RPM and wearing this way. This coupler material is very hard. Not soft like rubber though.
Ideas welcome!
See the flat spots every 120 degrees??
I was taking the torque tube apart to replace the bearings for the heck of it and discovered some very strange wear on the couplers.
Wondering if anyone has ever seen this before. What baffles me is the uniform wear 120 degrees apart from one another and the fact that the wear is so close to the bearing support. I have never felt even the slightest vibration from my car. Considering the prop shaft spins the same RPM as the motor (unlike a driveshaft only spinning a fraction of the speed), I would expect enough vibration to throw me out of the car if anything was off by the amount of wear shown. I am measuring 4.410 across the coupler and 4.340 across one wear spot. That's .070"!
The only thing I can come up with is the couplers are getting hot and distorted at high RPM and wearing this way. This coupler material is very hard. Not soft like rubber though.
Ideas welcome!
See the flat spots every 120 degrees??
Last edited by BLOWNBLUEZ06; 11-17-2010 at 06:33 PM.
#3
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No way. The bearings are in perfect shape. Nice and smooth. No flat spots in the torque tube. They wore all the way around the inside of the tube too. See the partial piece I peeled off?
This is the kinda weird stuff I lose sleep over.
This is the kinda weird stuff I lose sleep over.
#5
Safety Car
I'm assuming you have metal spacers inserted in the coupler, are they all the same exact length? The coupler could be pinched together in areas causing the area to be slightly more dense throwing the balance out.
Just my shot in the dark.... Good luck!
Just my shot in the dark.... Good luck!
#6
Melting Slicks
The couplers will deform under load and rub the inside of the torque tube. I had to scrape the remains from the inside, when mine failed. My wear was uniform though. I have no idea why yours are at 120 deg. Strange. I want to know why.
#7
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There's a pic of them about halfway down.
http://www.rpmtransmissions.com/drivetrainparts.html
#8
Le Mans Master
IS there 3 spots or just 2?
I am guessing the spots are where the whole assembly is the heaviest, and when spinning this moves enough to throw it against the inside of the tube?
I am guessing the spots are where the whole assembly is the heaviest, and when spinning this moves enough to throw it against the inside of the tube?
#10
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I measured the OD of this coupler. It's 4.410".
Here's my couplers
and here's a stocker
Now I mentioned that mine are worn ever 120 degrees and 60 degrees off from each other at each end, so that means that every 60 degrees, there's a flat spot on one end or the other. Got me wondering if GM flattened these on 6 sides for a reason.
Things that make you go HMMMMM.
#11
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#12
Melting Slicks
#15
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I agree Doc. It makes perfect sense when you consider where the pressure is applied. That's exactly where it's getting squished and rubbing. Thanks
#17
Burning Brakes
#18
Drifting
Looks like the couplers are winding up under torque load as others have said. Looking at the back of the engine the drivetrain would turn counter clockwise and the load from the drivetrain is trying to stop it and it wads up the coupler just a bit under peak torque conditions.