Aeromotive Eliminator Pump Install
09-14-2018, 03:24 PM
#1
Melting Slicks
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Aeromotive Eliminator Pump Install
I currently have a dual fuel pump setup that I homemade years ago in my 99 FRC. One pump runs primary and the second one comes on with a 4 psi Hobbs switch. I have some spike in pressure when the second pump comes on and the primary pump doesn't seem to want to hold at 58psi. It usually floats around 50-52 psi. So now to my current thoughts:
I have always wanted to revamp my fuel system with a big external pump and make my own lines and go to a boost referenced regulator. Now is the time! I have have procured an eliminator pump and all the lines to do my setup. I know there are better systems drop in and etc.. but this is what I have in hand. My question is this, would you all go back to just a stock in tank pump and run it primarily then kick the eliminator on at 1psi or should I buy a controller and run the eliminator all the time?
I have always wanted to revamp my fuel system with a big external pump and make my own lines and go to a boost referenced regulator. Now is the time! I have have procured an eliminator pump and all the lines to do my setup. I know there are better systems drop in and etc.. but this is what I have in hand. My question is this, would you all go back to just a stock in tank pump and run it primarily then kick the eliminator on at 1psi or should I buy a controller and run the eliminator all the time?
09-23-2018, 04:46 PM
#3
Drifting
I currently have a dual fuel pump setup that I homemade years ago in my 99 FRC. One pump runs primary and the second one comes on with a 4 psi Hobbs switch. I have some spike in pressure when the second pump comes on and the primary pump doesn't seem to want to hold at 58psi. It usually floats around 50-52 psi. So now to my current thoughts:
I have always wanted to revamp my fuel system with a big external pump and make my own lines and go to a boost referenced regulator. Now is the time! I have have procured an eliminator pump and all the lines to do my setup. I know there are better systems drop in and etc.. but this is what I have in hand. My question is this, would you all go back to just a stock in tank pump and run it primarily then kick the eliminator on at 1psi or should I buy a controller and run the eliminator all the time?
I have always wanted to revamp my fuel system with a big external pump and make my own lines and go to a boost referenced regulator. Now is the time! I have have procured an eliminator pump and all the lines to do my setup. I know there are better systems drop in and etc.. but this is what I have in hand. My question is this, would you all go back to just a stock in tank pump and run it primarily then kick the eliminator on at 1psi or should I buy a controller and run the eliminator all the time?
First, I'll start with your proposed setup and why you'll want to shy away from it. Using a big external pump as a primary for you car is absolutely not the way to go. First off, its just overkill and will cause excess heat in the fuel system as well as voltage draw. Second, with the limited space under our cars will make it challenging to mount an A1000 or similar. IF you do find somewhere to stick it, I can promise you it will be up and out of the air flow and will cause pump overheating issues. Also, using the Eliminator pump anywhere in the system is going to be total overkill.
Your second thought is more on line as to what you're actually going to want to do but with one modification depending on your ultimate goal. I can tell you that my car is an honest to goodness 8 second pump gas street car that you can drive every day anywhere in the country and I've taken great time and care to develop the fuel system that works for that. Maybe your goal is faster than where I currently am, and if that's the case you can step up to Harcore's setup but again....I don't even think that's a must where he is either.
You'll want to do an twin intank setup using a pickup like the one that Lonnie's makes. Truth be told, I wouldn't waste your money on his actual setup. Sure its nice not to have to make something but for what you get its a bit overpriced. You, or anyone can make one that will work just fine with a bit of effort. I was able to get his pickup used at a good price so it was just easier for me to use it. From there I have twin Aeromotive 340's in the tank, one for primary and the second one kicks on at 2psi via a Hobbs. I also use the Racetronix hotwire wiring as its complete and actually gives me the ability to switch between primary and secondary pumps by just changing one connector in the engine bay. For me doing Drag Week this is important incase the primary pump dies in the middle of nowhere I'll be able to switch to the secondary pump and continue to drive on that one pump for the time being. From there I ran my own lines and filters.
This setup has proven itself consistent and more than enough headroom in fueling to feed my car without issues.
- Travis
09-24-2018, 05:22 PM
#4
Instructor
I currently have a dual fuel pump setup that I homemade years ago in my 99 FRC. One pump runs primary and the second one comes on with a 4 psi Hobbs switch. I have some spike in pressure when the second pump comes on and the primary pump doesn't seem to want to hold at 58psi. It usually floats around 50-52 psi. So now to my current thoughts:
I have always wanted to revamp my fuel system with a big external pump and make my own lines and go to a boost referenced regulator. Now is the time! I have have procured an eliminator pump and all the lines to do my setup. I know there are better systems drop in and etc.. but this is what I have in hand. My question is this, would you all go back to just a stock in tank pump and run it primarily then kick the eliminator on at 1psi or should I buy a controller and run the eliminator all the time?
I have always wanted to revamp my fuel system with a big external pump and make my own lines and go to a boost referenced regulator. Now is the time! I have have procured an eliminator pump and all the lines to do my setup. I know there are better systems drop in and etc.. but this is what I have in hand. My question is this, would you all go back to just a stock in tank pump and run it primarily then kick the eliminator on at 1psi or should I buy a controller and run the eliminator all the time?
This is how i did mine
09-25-2018, 09:16 PM
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I bought a now discontinued Aeromotive controller. 16303 is the part number. I plan to run my hotwired 255 like normal, all the time. Then I’m going to run my A1000 with the controller, which has a boost pressure reference port. From there it has 5 section of adjustment slider ***** that you can set the fuel pump speed based on power %, there is a rotary switch that you set your max expected psi with. Which from that amount the controller divide that evenly between the 5 slider *****.
max psi of 10, gives you 5 sections based on 2 psi increments, 30 psi gives you 5 based on 6 psi increments.
It also also has a 0-5 volt signal input for over ride. I plan to use that tied into a starter engagement signal (reduced to 5v?) or some type of Hobbs switch on the fuel rail/regulator in order to prime the system, then let the co troller handle the fuel pump ramping as needed.
max psi of 10, gives you 5 sections based on 2 psi increments, 30 psi gives you 5 based on 6 psi increments.
It also also has a 0-5 volt signal input for over ride. I plan to use that tied into a starter engagement signal (reduced to 5v?) or some type of Hobbs switch on the fuel rail/regulator in order to prime the system, then let the co troller handle the fuel pump ramping as needed.
09-27-2018, 08:59 PM
#6
Drifting
I bought a now discontinued Aeromotive controller. 16303 is the part number. I plan to run my hotwired 255 like normal, all the time. Then I’m going to run my A1000 with the controller, which has a boost pressure reference port. From there it has 5 section of adjustment slider ***** that you can set the fuel pump speed based on power %, there is a rotary switch that you set your max expected psi with. Which from that amount the controller divide that evenly between the 5 slider *****.
max psi of 10, gives you 5 sections based on 2 psi increments, 30 psi gives you 5 based on 6 psi increments.
It also also has a 0-5 volt signal input for over ride. I plan to use that tied into a starter engagement signal (reduced to 5v?) or some type of Hobbs switch on the fuel rail/regulator in order to prime the system, then let the co troller handle the fuel pump ramping as needed.
max psi of 10, gives you 5 sections based on 2 psi increments, 30 psi gives you 5 based on 6 psi increments.
It also also has a 0-5 volt signal input for over ride. I plan to use that tied into a starter engagement signal (reduced to 5v?) or some type of Hobbs switch on the fuel rail/regulator in order to prime the system, then let the co troller handle the fuel pump ramping as needed.
- Travis
09-27-2018, 09:57 PM
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There really isn’t anything else out there that can control the A1000, I don’t want to have a spike in fuel pressure when the pump comes on. I do t want the on/off and nothing in between. It’s just too much fuel.
09-28-2018, 02:41 PM
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Use this with a hobbs switch set at the boost level you want the pump to start at.. Use it to control the A1000 pump like it would control the solenoids The Max EZ is capable of powering nitrous and fuel solenoids with a total amp draw up to 40 amps maximum I run a A1000 with a 30 amp fuse so this controller will work fine. It just a simple PWM controller
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10-01-2018, 11:05 AM
#9
Melting Slicks
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A couple things come to mind when reading your thoughts/plan.
First, I'll start with your proposed setup and why you'll want to shy away from it. Using a big external pump as a primary for you car is absolutely not the way to go. First off, its just overkill and will cause excess heat in the fuel system as well as voltage draw. Second, with the limited space under our cars will make it challenging to mount an A1000 or similar. IF you do find somewhere to stick it, I can promise you it will be up and out of the air flow and will cause pump overheating issues. Also, using the Eliminator pump anywhere in the system is going to be total overkill.
Your second thought is more on line as to what you're actually going to want to do but with one modification depending on your ultimate goal. I can tell you that my car is an honest to goodness 8 second pump gas street car that you can drive every day anywhere in the country and I've taken great time and care to develop the fuel system that works for that. Maybe your goal is faster than where I currently am, and if that's the case you can step up to Harcore's setup but again....I don't even think that's a must where he is either.
You'll want to do an twin intank setup using a pickup like the one that Lonnie's makes. Truth be told, I wouldn't waste your money on his actual setup. Sure its nice not to have to make something but for what you get its a bit overpriced. You, or anyone can make one that will work just fine with a bit of effort. I was able to get his pickup used at a good price so it was just easier for me to use it. From there I have twin Aeromotive 340's in the tank, one for primary and the second one kicks on at 2psi via a Hobbs. I also use the Racetronix hotwire wiring as its complete and actually gives me the ability to switch between primary and secondary pumps by just changing one connector in the engine bay. For me doing Drag Week this is important incase the primary pump dies in the middle of nowhere I'll be able to switch to the secondary pump and continue to drive on that one pump for the time being. From there I ran my own lines and filters.
This setup has proven itself consistent and more than enough headroom in fueling to feed my car without issues.
- Travis
First, I'll start with your proposed setup and why you'll want to shy away from it. Using a big external pump as a primary for you car is absolutely not the way to go. First off, its just overkill and will cause excess heat in the fuel system as well as voltage draw. Second, with the limited space under our cars will make it challenging to mount an A1000 or similar. IF you do find somewhere to stick it, I can promise you it will be up and out of the air flow and will cause pump overheating issues. Also, using the Eliminator pump anywhere in the system is going to be total overkill.
Your second thought is more on line as to what you're actually going to want to do but with one modification depending on your ultimate goal. I can tell you that my car is an honest to goodness 8 second pump gas street car that you can drive every day anywhere in the country and I've taken great time and care to develop the fuel system that works for that. Maybe your goal is faster than where I currently am, and if that's the case you can step up to Harcore's setup but again....I don't even think that's a must where he is either.
You'll want to do an twin intank setup using a pickup like the one that Lonnie's makes. Truth be told, I wouldn't waste your money on his actual setup. Sure its nice not to have to make something but for what you get its a bit overpriced. You, or anyone can make one that will work just fine with a bit of effort. I was able to get his pickup used at a good price so it was just easier for me to use it. From there I have twin Aeromotive 340's in the tank, one for primary and the second one kicks on at 2psi via a Hobbs. I also use the Racetronix hotwire wiring as its complete and actually gives me the ability to switch between primary and secondary pumps by just changing one connector in the engine bay. For me doing Drag Week this is important incase the primary pump dies in the middle of nowhere I'll be able to switch to the secondary pump and continue to drive on that one pump for the time being. From there I ran my own lines and filters.
This setup has proven itself consistent and more than enough headroom in fueling to feed my car without issues.
- Travis
10-01-2018, 11:07 AM
#10
Melting Slicks
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https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...p-install.html
This is how i did mine
This is how i did mine
10-14-2018, 12:31 PM
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