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Why wont my UPP fuel system work? Im about to tear it out and start over. C5z tt

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Old 09-27-2018, 06:55 PM
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Default Why wont my UPP fuel system work? Im about to tear it out and start over. C5z tt

It just wont hold pressure at 58. Worked fine for a few months then started losing pressure. Fluctuates between 50 and 58. I replaced fuel filter, didnt help. I put in brand new racetronix pump with wiring harness. Held solid at 60 for about 10 minutes. Stopped for gas then right back to 56. Im not sure what else to do. Car only makes just shy of 700rwhp and I cant even keep steady fuel pressure. Im about to give up on this. Any last things to try before I lose my *** on this car?
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Sorry I am not a very technical person and maybe someone who is will chime in but since its a UPP product, I would contact them for technical support. It is their product and they might know of bugs/kinks people have run into before.
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Originally Posted by BlackMagicC5
It just wont hold pressure at 58. Worked fine for a few months then started losing pressure. Fluctuates between 50 and 58. I replaced fuel filter, didnt help. I put in brand new racetronix pump with wiring harness. Held solid at 60 for about 10 minutes. Stopped for gas then right back to 56. Im not sure what else to do. Car only makes just shy of 700rwhp and I cant even keep steady fuel pressure. Im about to give up on this. Any last things to try before I lose my *** on this car?
What regulator is included in their kit? I had to put some locktite on the pressure adjusting screw on one of my regs to keep it from backing out during driving.
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What regulator is included in their kit? I had to put some locktite on the pressure adjusting screw on one of my regs to keep it from backing out during driving.

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Thats what I have. Im not super mechanical and didnt build the car myself used a shop so this isnt easy to figure out.
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Thats a 1:1 boost reference regulator. Why arent you using the reference port to maintain full use of it?
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I recall another thread in here where a guy was having a similar issue with an UPP fuel kit.

Can you see how the fuel pumps are wired? Do you have a fuel pressure gauge in car or just the one under hood? I'd ditch that summit racing gauge and get a high quality liquid filled gauge to ensure your gauge isn't just inaccurate.

I'm with JoeyG, you should definitely be running boost reference to make the most of your setup. As boost rises so will your fuel pressure.
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Im not sure about the boost referenced deal. Thats what I thought it was. I thought it activates the secondary pump at a few psi. I have a gauge in the car thats what Ive been looking at. I can confirm its not the gauge because I burned the #8 spark plug. Also the pressure issue Im referring to is during normal driving and idle. It wont even maintain 58psi like it used to. Something happened at some point to cause a pressure drop.
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if you have the old style fuel system did you use the 97-98 filter and if it's the newer system did you install blockoffs in the tanks?
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Originally Posted by neutron82
if you have the old style fuel system did you use the 97-98 filter and if it's the newer system did you install blockoffs in the tanks?
Its a 2001 Z06 Im not sure what that means.
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ok then you should be using the 97-98 style fuel filter without the regulator, the original filter that comes in your car has the regulator built into it and you have added another regulator... as far as I understand it the adjustable boost referenced regulator will not operate properly until you eliminate the factory regulator
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Originally Posted by BlackMagicC5



if your UPP pump is turning on, connect a line from the intake manifold to that barb fitting on side of the regulators red ha. This is your pressure connection. So for every 1# of boost you will gain 1psi of fuel pressure. Any questions just call CK.

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correct me if I'm wrong but if he still has the factory regulator installed won't it still limit fuel pressure to 58 and not rise with boost even with the vacuum line connected?
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Originally Posted by neutron82
ok then you should be using the 97-98 style fuel filter without the regulator, the original filter that comes in your car has the regulator built into it and you have added another regulator... as far as I understand it the adjustable boost referenced regulator will not operate properly until you eliminate the factory regulator
The confusing part is this worked fine all winter. And the low pressure is during cruise and idle so boost reference shouldnt effect that correct?
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You can disassemble and clean the fpr fairly easily and inspect for worn or damage pieces. If the pump, filter and wiring are new that is where I’d look.
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Originally Posted by Turpid porpoise
You can disassemble and clean the fpr fairly easily and inspect for worn or damage pieces. If the pump, filter and wiring are new that is where I’d look.
Yeah I dont know what else it could be. The regulator in the engine bay from UPP regulates pressure during idle and cruise?
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Originally Posted by BlackMagicC5


Yeah I dont know what else it could be. The regulator in the engine bay from UPP regulates pressure during idle and cruise?
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Originally Posted by Turpid porpoise


At all times

NO!

This is incorrect.

NO, do not connect a vacuum line to the regulator.

If you're not setup to be a full return system with eliminating the factory reg you CANNOT run boost refference.

If you're expierencing issues at idle/cruise it has nothing to do with the UPP fuel system. When not in boost the system is not only dormant, it is seperated by a check valve. Meaning the car runs 100% as if it weren't there at all.

Problems like that which are present durring idle crûise suggest something with your factory setup. Predominatly the factory reg. Over pressure on our system can kill the factory reg. Hence why you need to properly set fuel pressure, and NOT run 1:1 boost ref.

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Didn't realize your kit kept the stock regulator and added an aftermarket regulator. I'll let you take it away from here then.
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the op never mentioned if he is using the return port on the regulator and also didn't specify if the factory regulator was removed... if it is designed to use the factory regulator then why install another one?... seems kinda pointless to me if you aren't going to use it


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