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Old 03-01-2008, 11:08 AM
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I went with the Delco ceramic pads when I got my new chrome wheels and it reduced the dust by quite a bit although it did not eliminate it. I do not see a loss of stopping power either. Cost was $175.00 and I installed them myself. Great time to paint the calipers also.
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Originally Posted by Zilla
No squealing noise when braking for me
Low, Low dust and quiet
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im about to order to hawk ceramic pads myself
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Hi, I used "Kleen Wheel Brake Dust Shields" on my Mustang GT . I put them on when I bought the car in 89, and they kept the wheels as brand new for 17 years. Not a drop of brake dust. They absolutely work as described. I never experienced any heat problems from them, as they have slots in them to direct the airflow over the pads but not the other diriction. The only downside is that you cannot see the disc and calipers as it comes from the factory. They are super light weight aluminum and are painted Matte Black, so you can paint them any color you want or leave them black if that is your preference.
They work, and they come in the vette sizes. Installation is easy, you just remove the wheel and press them in from the back, bolt the wheel back on and done. For street cars I can't see a problem.
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Originally Posted by jrose7004
Raybestos Quiet Stops.
I have had these on my car for a few years now and theres still plenty of pad left. Huge difference in dust and no noise.
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Originally Posted by rws.1
Wash them before first use and apply two coats of Rejex...
I layered on 4 coats of Rejex on my wheels before I installed them. Now the brake dust comes off with a hose
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the harder the brake pad compound, the less dust. WE did a study of BMW's brake pads together with their system. BMW is the world leader in brake safety and design... they have the best numbers on stopping in cold stop ( Panic stops ). BMW's brakes are the dirtiest brake pads and last the least amount of time but they will save your life.. AT GM we wanted the best compromise between stopping and longevity. Thats why we chose the ACdelco pads that came with the car. They dust, thats a good thing, because that dust is what is keeping your pads from fading. Now add some hardness and you get less braking, but it makes those who cry about brake dust happy...
Now here is the scenario.. Your on the supper highway safely behind a Panel truck your cruising comfortably at 70 mph and the panel truck and you go around a slight turn in the highway and all of a sudden the truck swerves into the next lane, and 120 ft ahead is a complete standstill, you hit the bakes and the abs works and you stop 5 ft before you slam into the stopped cars... Now add dustless or less dustless pads, or worse yet you add ceramics which require some heat up to give full stopping power.. all of a sudden your bake stopping power is decrease by 15 % this add 20 ft to the above scenario putting you about 15 feet into the stopped cars. These dust free brakes will stop your car and you wont notice any difference in stopping power under nominal driving conditions. But you may only get one chance in life to do a successful Panic stop.. the other scenario I mention is a deer in the road.. you have two choices swerve to avoid the deer, but statistics show that swerving is usually fatal, because the situation usually occur on a highway with cars on other lanes, and its these cars that will kill you, your much better off trying to stop. MY point to this, is do you want to risk your life because your too lazy to wipe down your wheels... I would always want to get the softest most stoppable pads I can find, and the original AC Delco pads are my choice only because of the data... the ceramics are GM's answer to high brake dust on these cars, not quite as good as the originals but a compromise. Next time you're next too a BMW, take a look at their wheels, they are driving one of the safest cars on the road, with the best stopping ability. Your Corvette comes from the factory as a close rival to the BMW system. Its a shame that so many people want to change things for the sake of change. IN this case, a change for the worse.. Bakes are designed to stop your car, as quickly and as safely as possible, without regard for their cleanliness. I wont debate this or respond again in this thread, if you have any questions PM me.
Bill aka ET

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Old 03-01-2008, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
the harder the brake pad compound, the less dust. WE did a study of BMW's brake pads together with their system. BMW is the world leader in brake safety and design... they have the best numbers on stopping in cold stop ( Panic stops ). BMW's brakes are the dirtiest brake pads and last the least amount of time but they will save your life.. AT GM we wanted the best compromise between stopping and longevity. Thats why we chose the ACdelco pads that came with the car. They dust, thats a good thing, because that dust is what is keeping your pads from fading. Now add some hardness and you get less braking, but it makes those who cry about brake dust happy...
Now here is the scenario.. Your on the supper highway safely behind a Panel truck your cruising comfortably at 70 mph and the panel truck and you go around a slight turn in the highway and all of a sudden the truck swerves into the next lane, and 120 ft ahead is a complete standstill, you hit the bakes and the abs works and you stop 5 ft before you slam into the stopped cars... Now add dustless or less dustless pads, or worse yet you add ceramics which require some heat up to give full stopping power.. all of a sudden your bake stopping power is decrease by 15 % this add 20 ft to the above scenario putting you about 15 feet into the stopped cars. These dust free brakes will stop your car and you wont notice any difference in stopping power under nominal driving conditions. But you may only get one chance in life to do a successful Panic stop.. the other scenario I mention is a deer in the road.. you have two choices swerve to avoid the deer, but statistics show that swerving is usually fatal, because the situation usually occur on a highway with cars on other lanes, and its these cars that will kill you, your much better off trying to stop. MY point to this, is do you want to risk your life because your too lazy to wipe down your wheels... I would always want to get the softest most stoppable pads I can find, and the original AC Delco pads are my choice only because of the data... the ceramics are GM's answer to high brake dust on these cars, not quite as good as the originals but a compromise. Next time you're next too a BMW, take a look at their wheels, they are driving one of the safest cars on the road, with the best stopping ability. Your Corvette comes from the factory as a close rival to the BMW system. Its a shame that so many people want to change things for the sake of change. IN this case, a change for the worse.. Bakes are designed to stop your car, as quickly and as safely as possible, without regard for their cleanliness. I wont debate this or respond again in this thread, if you have any questions PM me.
Bill aka ET
Nicely said. Safety vs dust, your choice.
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Originally Posted by moserbe
Nicely said. Safety vs dust, your choice.
I see a run on people selling their used ceramic pads in the parts section in the near future.

Great explanation Evil-Twin

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Originally Posted by rws.1
Wash them before first use and apply two coats of Rejex... that coupled with ceramic brakes and all you will need is to wash them with a good car wash soap like Meguiars NXT soap.
And congrats on getting a set of CCWs - they are awesome wheels.
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Originally Posted by C5 4 ME
Low, Low dust and quiet
Me too
Old 03-03-2008, 01:53 PM
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don'ttop any more.....ha ha
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Hey Evil T great post! Chock full of info. I myself never considered the loss of stopping distance. Who Knew?
Now we all know.
Thanks
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
the harder the brake pad compound, the less dust. WE did a study of BMW's brake pads together with their system. BMW is the world leader in brake safety and design... they have the best numbers on stopping in cold stop ( Panic stops ). BMW's brakes are the dirtiest brake pads and last the least amount of time but they will save your life.. AT GM we wanted the best compromise between stopping and longevity. Thats why we chose the ACdelco pads that came with the car. They dust, thats a good thing, because that dust is what is keeping your pads from fading. Now add some hardness and you get less braking, but it makes those who cry about brake dust happy...
Now here is the scenario.. Your on the supper highway safely behind a Panel truck your cruising comfortably at 70 mph and the panel truck and you go around a slight turn in the highway and all of a sudden the truck swerves into the next lane, and 120 ft ahead is a complete standstill, you hit the bakes and the abs works and you stop 5 ft before you slam into the stopped cars... Now add dustless or less dustless pads, or worse yet you add ceramics which require some heat up to give full stopping power.. all of a sudden your bake stopping power is decrease by 15 % this add 20 ft to the above scenario putting you about 15 feet into the stopped cars. These dust free brakes will stop your car and you wont notice any difference in stopping power under nominal driving conditions. But you may only get one chance in life to do a successful Panic stop.. the other scenario I mention is a deer in the road.. you have two choices swerve to avoid the deer, but statistics show that swerving is usually fatal, because the situation usually occur on a highway with cars on other lanes, and its these cars that will kill you, your much better off trying to stop. MY point to this, is do you want to risk your life because your too lazy to wipe down your wheels... I would always want to get the softest most stoppable pads I can find, and the original AC Delco pads are my choice only because of the data... the ceramics are GM's answer to high brake dust on these cars, not quite as good as the originals but a compromise. Next time you're next too a BMW, take a look at their wheels, they are driving one of the safest cars on the road, with the best stopping ability. Your Corvette comes from the factory as a close rival to the BMW system. Its a shame that so many people want to change things for the sake of change. IN this case, a change for the worse.. Bakes are designed to stop your car, as quickly and as safely as possible, without regard for their cleanliness. I wont debate this or respond again in this thread, if you have any questions PM me.
Bill aka ET
Great information. Thanks....
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Originally Posted by nj02vette
As others stated, ceramics will do the trick. Problem with them is they start to fade baaaaddddd after a few hard stops. For most street driving, they should be fine, but some have reported issues in heavy traffic where heated up, they just don't stop as good.

Personally, I perfer the brakes to stop the car. I can wash brake dust off. I can't repair body work or re-incarnate myself.
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Well, at least with the ceramic pads, your wheels will be clean as you slam in to whatever it is
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
the harder the brake pad compound, the less dust. WE did a study of BMW's brake pads together with their system. BMW is the world leader in brake safety and design... they have the best numbers on stopping in cold stop Bill aka ET
The more I read ET's posts, the more I realize how well thought out and built this car really is. Love my vette, even with all the little quirks.

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Glad I just got a new set of AC Delco OEM's installed.

I'd rather be able to stop and wash my wheels when they get dirty.

I know, I dug up an old thread as I was doing a search on new rear brake pads, but E-T sure as heck speaks the truth and makes perfect sense.
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Thanks for clarifying ET. Hey, Corvette compared to BMW. Not bad!
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Yep, ceramic pads will help. I use Raybestos Quiet Stops.

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