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[Z06] C4 ZR1 faster than a C5 Z06 !

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Old 07-13-2018, 09:00 AM
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ZR-1 especially from a roll will outdo the Z06. I have owned both and my ZR-1 wasn't as quick in the 1/4 mile, but higher speeds it shines. I raced my bro's CTS-V and it smoked that without an issue. I was stock ZR-1 LT5, he had CTS-V with full exhaust, instake and tune. Just from me driving the Z06 it seems to be a more nimble track car for sure. The ZR-1 was just awesome. The engine and transmission are far better than the LS/Tremec combo, and the seats in the early 90-93 ZR-1's are world better as well.

I like the "cheapness" of the Z06, but honestly the LT-5 is dead bulletproof. There is a reason why there was only 1 reported failure when the ZR-1's were new.
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Old 07-13-2018, 09:36 AM
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Old 07-13-2018, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by HUMVET51
What they said. The ZR-1 was the King of the Hill until 2001 Z06 hit the streets. And now with the natural progression of this game, the C6Z06 is the current King until this summer, when the ZR-1 will top them all!! But back to the matter at hand. Except for top speed, the 2001 Z06 is faster than the last model year ZR-1!!

You forgot the C-7 Z06.
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Old 08-02-2018, 08:25 PM
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And then theres the 415 stroker lt5 with nitrous.

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Originally Posted by Phanni
You forgot the C-7 Z06.
They wern't making the C7 when this thread started
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Old 08-03-2018, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by wdo-mkr
And then theres the 415 stroker lt5 with nitrous.
That's one bad ZR-1.
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Nelson racing engines in Chatsworth has a billet block he made + his own billet heads, imagine a 500cid sbc LT5 with boost.
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How exactly did he get suckered?
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Old 11-23-2020, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by billy mild
ZR-1 especially from a roll will outdo the Z06. I have owned both and my ZR-1 wasn't as quick in the 1/4 mile, but higher speeds it shines. I raced my bro's CTS-V and it smoked that without an issue. I was stock ZR-1 LT5, he had CTS-V with full exhaust, instake and tune. Just from me driving the Z06 it seems to be a more nimble track car for sure. The ZR-1 was just awesome. The engine and transmission are far better than the LS/Tremec combo, and the seats in the early 90-93 ZR-1's are world better as well.

I like the "cheapness" of the Z06, but honestly the LT-5 is dead bulletproof. There is a reason why there was only 1 reported failure when the ZR-1's were new.
Saying that the C4 ZR1 w/ the LT5 & whatever tranny they stuck in that thing is "far better" than the LS6 & M12 version of the T56 Tremec 6 speed is just flat out wrong.
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Old 11-23-2020, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NytmereZ
Your facts are correct but how many people race their cars up to 180mph, I have ran a few ZR-1's back when I 1st got my 01 Z06, completely stock, it wasnt even close. Rergardless, gotta love the ZR-1, what GM could have done with that Lotus built motor, would have been something great, just to cost effective.
No Lotus. That motor was a Cosworth design built by Johnson Controls AKA: Evinrude Outboards at the time. Who is; Also part of Simplex
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Originally Posted by Hary Gahtoe
No Lotus. That motor was a Cosworth design built by Johnson Controls AKA: Evinrude Outboards at the time. Who is; Also part of Simplex
The LT5 DOHC ZR1 engine was assembled by Mercury Marine in Stillwater. Oklahoma.....
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Originally Posted by dbgoodwin
If you own a 2002 you got suckered by chevy because the C7 Z06 is faster.
And if you add a blower to a C5 Z06 to even the odds up a bit the C5 then becomes the faster car (& won't suffer from the same heat issues at the track.....newer isn't ALWAYS better, a C7 ZR1 though would be nice lol
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Saying that the C4 ZR1 w/ the LT5 & whatever tranny they stuck in that thing is "far better" than the LS6 & M12 version of the T56 Tremec 6 speed is just flat out wrong.
Those eng/trans (ZF6) are unbreakable....cant run 900 lbs tq through a MN6 for very long.
89 black tag ZF6 were bombproof. The gearing of the LS6 trans is nice though

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Originally Posted by cv67
Those eng/trans (ZF6) are unbreakable....cant run 900 lbs tq through a MN6 for very long.
89 black tag ZF6 were bombproof. The gearing of the LS6 trans is nice though
Dude WHAT are you talking about!!! This is what happens when they legalize pot all over the place, crazy *** nonsense!!! First of all - find me a vehicle still running around w/ a stock ZF6/ML9 manual tranny putting 900 lbs to the wheels through it...I would be astonished if one exists or ever did exist for any period of time. One of the big reasons it may SEEM like the ZF6 manual tranny is more robust than a T56 is b/c there's just a whole HELL of a lot more high HP performance vehicles rocking that tranny, newer model years, actually going to the track (not just dragstrip either - autocross), way more people wrenching on & modding these T56 equipped vehicles...that of course there will be more cases of failure/issues & more documented ones. While the C4 was a very popular vehicle & popular to mod, it aint even close when you consider all manual C5 & C6 vettes have that tranny, F bod camaros/birds, holden commodore/monaro, Viper, SRT ram, Ford cobra/GT500, masseratis etc.- those are some pretty hardcore performance vehicles many of which got HEAVILY modded over the years. How many off the shelf built ZF6/ML9 trannies does RPM offer? I'm not going to bother checking as its probably 0.

And while I too have been under the impression the LT5 is well built sturdy engine - many of em never really got raced or modded heavily nowhere close to the extent of C5/C6 vettes so in reality there hasn't been much real world experience to prove the toughness of that tranny

I did stumble across this - super chevy article from 2000 where this poor guy blew up his 27k mile LT5 just doing a dyno run......
http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/vem...4-zr1-upgrades

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