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Old 07-17-2009, 01:52 PM
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Default True HP rating of the LS1

I know they rate the Base Vette LS1 at 345hp, but how accurate is that? Any big deviations seen?
Old 07-17-2009, 01:54 PM
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seems like most 6sp cars make around 300-315rwhp. no two LS1's seem to make the same power from what ive seen, but im young and dumb. LOL.

take the high end, 315rwhp x1.2=378hp or so?

just my .02.
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it would be interesting to see what a stock LS1 gets on the new engine dynos. SAE recently changed the testing rules to get a more consistent reading across all manufacturers. as a result many advertised hp ratings changed. interestingly enough most import engines saw lower ratings under the improved guidelines, and most domestic engines got higher ratings.

it would be really interesting to see what current results are.
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350/375 2001 + mn6.
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the 345HP is refferring to flywheel HP. There are losses going through the drivetrain. My bone stock 99 with an automatic dynoed at a mere 275 HP the first time I had it checked.

(now it is double that )
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When I dyno'd my car after installing a catback I had 310rwhp 315rwtq. The shop said most sock C5s will dyno between 299 and 310. But horsepower is going to range even from LS1 to LS1. The answer to your question is too open ended. The only answers you could possibly expect would be averages.
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Originally Posted by vetteJR
seems like most 6sp cars make around 300-315rwhp. no two LS1's seem to make the same power from what ive seen, but im young and dumb. LOL.

take the high end, 315rwhp x1.2=378hp or so?

just my .02.
Better math would be

315/0.85~370.6 hp

the 15% conversion factor for manuals needs to be factored in by divisor rather than multiplied.

but you got the right idea

Also, It's my belief that GM used that crappy 4 3/4" hole breathing stock air box to get the LS1 DOWN to 345hp(I've seen it posted on the forums as well so I won't take all the credit), as soon as you remove that terrible flow restriction, you'll find most people can pick up 15 rwhp just from a true CAI.

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Typically - 15% drivetrain loss for the manual trans, about 20% for the automatic cars.

So take your flywheel HP or torque numbers (factory numbers) and divide by 1.15 and you'll be pretty close.
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Anyone ever dyno, just the "Flip-Tie Mod"?


I'd be very curious to see what gains would be made by it.
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Originally Posted by csdunaway
the 345HP is refferring to flywheel HP. There are losses going through the drivetrain. My bone stock 99 with an automatic dynoed at a mere 275 HP the first time I had it checked.

(now it is double that )
That's my understanding also, that 345hp is at the flywheel, just like I believe the cubic inch is actually 346, and not 350?
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geez..only about 300 to the wheels eh?

time to change that
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Originally Posted by deimis
geez..only about 300 to the wheels eh?

time to change that
There was a time that 300 rwhp was a pretty impressive number...
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Mine dyno'd at 315 rwhp with Vararam and Dyno tune.
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Originally Posted by blacksedan87
So take your flywheel HP or torque numbers (factory numbers) and divide by 1.15 and you'll be pretty close.
Ummmmm no, You multiply the factory number by .85 to find RWHP assuming a 15% driveline loss.
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Originally Posted by futuretech
Mine dyno'd at 315 rwhp with Vararam and Dyno tune.
M6 or A4?
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Originally Posted by JCamaro
M6 or A4?
It is an A4

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Originally Posted by Mark C5
Ummmmm no, You multiply the factory number by .85 to find RWHP assuming a 15% driveline loss.
So instead of 300 rwhp, I'm down to about 297 any more good news?
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interesting posts
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Originally Posted by blacksedan87
There was a time that 300 rwhp was a pretty impressive number...
300 rwhp is enough hp for any one (everyone). Stay stock
this is your last warning.
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