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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 08:13 AM
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Looks great!

so did you reverse the position of the high and low beams? IIRC the german kit in its original form had the high beams on the outside and the lows on the inside, which looked really weird. looks like you've fixed that.
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 08:16 AM
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That was a different kit.
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did the projectors come with the bulbs and ballasts or did you get them seperately?
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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We're using my kits.
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Originally Posted by Jhonathan_W
We're using my kits.
Awesome, your kits are the best I've ever used. what type of bulb does the low beam use?
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With this setup we're testing H7 lows and H9 highs.

The bulb options will probably be up to the customer, but of course pricing goes up when we use the new D series bulbs. Plus we will need different projectors for those. We're not to this point yet to really say 100% either way.

To keep the costs down the test set version will be the best choice.
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Originally Posted by Jhonathan_W
With this setup we're testing H7 lows and H9 highs.

The bulb options will probably be up to the customer, but of course pricing goes up when we use the new D series bulbs. Plus we will need different projectors for those. We're not to this point yet to really say 100% either way.

To keep the costs down the test set version will be the best choice.
Good thinking, JW. Personally, I think if you release your own version of projector headlights, it needs to be a budget-oriented version (or at least include that as an option). There are already 2 kinds out there with price tags of $700+. I don't know if I'll ever be able to spend hundreds on headlights, but I'm sure there are lots of people here willing to buy it.
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Originally Posted by Jhonathan_W
With this setup we're testing H7 lows and H9 highs.

The bulb options will probably be up to the customer, but of course pricing goes up when we use the new D series bulbs. Plus we will need different projectors for those. We're not to this point yet to really say 100% either way.

To keep the costs down the test set version will be the best choice.
Will you be offering a kit without bulbs and ballasts?
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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I'm sure we will be able to.
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Originally Posted by Jhonathan_W
I'm sure we will be able to.
Cool, the depos that i have sitting around used the H7 bulbs and the lights i have now use the H9

Do you know if there is any difference in the Halogen projector and the xenon projector? I did notice that the 50mm modules were A LOT cheaper in halogen than they are in xenon.
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Originally Posted by jrc27
Cool, the depos that i have sitting around used the H7 bulbs and the lights i have now use the H9

Do you know if there is any difference in the Halogen projector and the xenon projector? I did notice that the 50mm modules were A LOT cheaper in halogen than they are in xenon.
I think it's just the cut off. I've been reading a little about HID's. It seems xenon's cutoff has to be very precise and fine tuned.

And the projector lens have different qualities. It can make a difference on the light output as well as cutoff color.

It's probably not that big of a difference for those wanting a budget set. Let's face it. If you want like real OEM projector quality it's gonna cost A LOT ($1K+).
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Originally Posted by karateboi87
If you want like real OEM projector quality it's gonna cost A LOT ($1K+).
that's kind of what i want
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He pretty much beat me to it. I doubt most people would even notice the difference (the price would be the real killer). If someone wants to spend $1k I'm sure we can find the best projector out there and make it happen.


We want something affordable, but these will be hand made and not a big production run overseas so we won't be offering them for $200 like the other vehicles you see.
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This is the kind of system that I can see actually paying over $500 for. Shroud dependant, and please, keep the small opening....the best part.
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The small opening is the main reason we're doing them. There are a few other options for regular projector lights. We want something different. That option isn't going anywhere.


As for the shroud my tester will be working with a professional in the field of that (unsure what to call him).

Man I might be on my 4th set of HIDs in my car! I'm loving these things.


Also to make it clear from what I said a few posts up we will be using a HID projector.

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it's too bad that the US hella doesn't have them on their site as i'd like to find out if there is any difference in the output of light between the halogen projectors using an HID bulb and the actual xenon projectors using the D2S bulbs.

I know what you are saying though. I started with the hids in the stock housing for a week, then went to the DEPOS and now have the light cannons and i'm not all that impressed with the light output. Out of all of them, the DEPOS had the best light output.
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Originally Posted by Jhonathan_W
The small opening is the main reason we're doing them. There are a few other options for regular projector lights. We want something different. That option isn't going anywhere.


As for the shroud my tester will be working with a professional in the field of that (unsure what to call him).

Man I might be on my 4th set of HIDs in my car! I'm loving these things.


Also to make it clear from what I said a few posts up we will be using a HID projector.
I just sent you a p.m. about a led question. Thanks
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Sent back.

**** UPDATE***
Later this week we are meeting with an aviation composites expert who will be designing our shrouds.
Depending on what the cost increase would be we're looking at having shroud options for plastic, fiberglass, or carbonfiber (we need opinions). Lens options clear and smoked.
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Lens options clear and smoked.
what do you mean when you say lens?
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JW... If you make me spend more money on lighting I'm gonna put a bullet in my brain!
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