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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 06:02 AM
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Hi,

I have a 2004 Manual Coupe with about 14k miles on it.

When I turn the car off, the engine shakes pretty vigorously. To the point where the car actually rocks a bit.

I was reading leaftye's post on common problems and it does talk about this a little bit in the "Drivetrain rattling" section:

"Sometimes you'll hear a horrible rattle if you shut off the engine. If you press the clutch pedal in while shutting off the car, you won't hear it."

Depressing the clutch when shutting off the car does help, but does not eliminate the problem completely.

Has anyone else experienced this? Any ideas as to what it might be?

My first thought is that it could be the motor mounts. Unfortunately, I am not sure where to look for them and didnt have much luck finding info on where theyre located. Can I even inspect them without putting the car on a lift?

How much does it cost to have motor mounts replaced?

Any thoughts, comments or suggestions would be appreciated.

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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 06:33 AM
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they all do it . . . . depress your clutch when you turn it off . . . . mine does not "rattle" when you do that . . . . I heard the explanation once but do not recall the specific reason it does "rattle" .
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 06:55 AM
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Normal. Mine does that too. I suspect it has something to do with the super soft engine mounts these cars got from GM, but i have no evidence to back that up.
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 07:53 AM
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Put a healthy cam in it.

That way the engine will shake all the time, it won't seem so unusual at shut down.


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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me
Put a healthy cam in it.
That way the engine will shake all the time, it won't seem so unusual at shut down.
That is the correct response! haha

Honestly tho its normal. The motor mounts on C5s are very soft (mainly because the crowd that bought C5s when they were being made was a little older and liked em softer - the C5 was supposed to be somewhat luxurious)... and the rattle is likely your throwout bearing, if you leave your car in neutral a lot with the clutch in it wears out the t/o bearing, however, its just somewhat annoying and not harmful even then... Nothing out of the ordinary.

If it really bothers you, swap the motor mounts for poly-urethane ones... However be warned, if you do that, you'll feel much more of the engines vibrations ALL OVER the cabin - You will, arguably, pick up some more engine response and put more horsepower to the wheels.

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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 01:20 PM
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So the engine shaking insanely on shut down is normal? Well, thats good, I think.

I had a '99 C5 Coupe automatic and the engine never shook like this on shut down, which is why I am concerned.
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jakesteel1
So the engine shaking insanely on shut down is normal? Well, thats good, I think.

I had a '99 C5 Coupe automatic and the engine never shook like this on shut down, which is why I am concerned.
No, I dont think it is normal. Check the mounts.

The rattle when the clutch is not depressed is normal.
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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My 02 Z does it everytime. It has 21,000 on it. No need to worry.
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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My 02 Z does it everytime. It has 21,000 on it. No need to worry.
Seriously? Because I was about to go on a phone calling blitz tomorrow morning.

I was gonna call Conte's, County Corvette, Kerbeck and even Rothrock! Ask em all if this is normal and then compare prices on having new motor mounts installed...

And what do I really expect them to say? Sure thats normal, have a good day!

Theyre businesses. Theyll all say, bring it in and let us check it out...

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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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I have an 01 and a 04. They both shake on shut down.......
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jakesteel1
So the engine shaking insanely on shut down is normal? Well, thats good, I think.

I had a '99 C5 Coupe automatic and the engine never shook like this on shut down, which is why I am concerned.
the 99 didn't rattle because it was an automatic trans. Depress your clutch when you shut her down-the rattle is normal on all manual trans
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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Normal, no worries.
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 10:56 PM
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good info guys!!!
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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Ok, guess I'll sleep a little better tonight.

Gotta look at the good and the bad. The bad, the engine shakes like its gonna flop out of the car. The good, if I time it properly, I can drown out the sound of my farts by letting loose at the same time I cut the engine.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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Well, I got out to County Corvette today. They witnessed me turning the car off and said its normal. Yay.

However, I asked them about a noise that the clutch was making. With the engine running, clutch in, put the car into gear then back into neutral, let the clutch go, and it makes this clankity popping noise. I was like is this normal? They said yes!

There was another C5 manual there and it did the exact same thing. I feel like I just got a ton of bricks off of my shoulders...

You know how much it costs to "check" or change a clutch? A LOT!!!
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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Normal... Like others said, keep the clutch in when you turn off the car. After the engine stops spinning, let go of the clutch. I do this to save time: I press the clutch in, shift into reverse (for parking reasons) and shut the car off at the same time.
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Im confused as there seems to be two seperate issues here.

1. The engine shakes/vibrates like its ready to come loose, and
2. The normal clutch noise when pedal is not depressed.

Unless a slight exxageration was used when describing the engine vibration....?
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by clayton1
Im confused as there seems to be two seperate issues here.

1. The engine shakes/vibrates like its ready to come loose, and
2. The normal clutch noise when pedal is not depressed.

Unless a slight exxageration was used when describing the engine vibration....?
Whats the normal clutch noise when the pedal isn't depressed?All this time I thought my throwout bearing was getting ready to take a dump
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by clayton1
Im confused as there seems to be two seperate issues here.

1. The engine shakes/vibrates like its ready to come loose, and
2. The normal clutch noise when pedal is not depressed.

Unless a slight exxageration was used when describing the engine vibration....?
And you make a good point. Its all relative. Ive never seen a car's engine make this much noise with this level of vibration on engine shut down, so this was very unnerving. The guys told me its normal and even demonstrated on another C5. Even though its "normal" for a C5, in my opinion, its still very very substantial.

The noise from the clutch really only became apparent to me as I was turning around in my driveway today. Its probably a separate issue, even though depressing the clutch while shutting off the car, did reduce the noise from the engine but did not reduce the vibration.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 93v
Whats the normal clutch noise when the pedal isn't depressed?All this time I thought my throwout bearing was getting ready to take a dump
With the engine running, depress the clutch, put the car in gear then back into neutral, then let the clutch go. It makes a very audible noise, coming from the transmission.

Initially they said that it is not a sound they are familiar with, put the car on a lift and had someone in the car shifting while someone was beneath the car inspecting. They thought it was ok. This was confirmed when they walked me over to another manual C5 and it made the exact same noise.
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