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Old 11-21-2010, 10:55 PM
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Because of the annoying shift skip from 1st to 4th, one day i decided to shift from 1st to 3rd. 2nd gear always seemed to low for me unless I was stepping on it, and 4th of course is way to high a gear from 1st. I noticed with a half pull down from 1st it springs loads to the right for a nice smooth shift to 3rd. The gear transition seems to be much smoother and still has plenty of torque. It's much less jerky than going into 2nd.

Bottom line: 1st to 3rd = smoother transition at normal RMP with less gas... and oh btw, eliminates any issues with the annoying skip shift to 4th if you haven't installed the skip shift eliminator yet...
Old 11-22-2010, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by srandall31
Because of the annoying shift skip from 1st to 4th, one day i decided to shift from 1st to 3rd. 2nd gear always seemed to low for me unless I was stepping on it, and 4th of course is way to high a gear from 1st. I noticed with a half pull down from 1st it springs loads to the right for a nice smooth shift to 3rd. The gear transition seems to be much smoother and still has plenty of torque. It's much less jerky than going into 2nd.

Bottom line: 1st to 3rd = smoother transition at normal RMP with less gas... and oh btw, eliminates any issues with the annoying skip shift to 4th if you haven't installed the skip shift eliminator yet...
1-3-5 for me w/the skip shift installed around town
Old 11-22-2010, 01:32 AM
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There is a device that just plugs in to the trans that eliminates the CAGS feature altogether. It only takes a couple of minutes to install. Most vendors sell them for around $20-30 bucks. I used to have one installed. When my car was re-tuned it was eliminated from the computer. If anyone is interested in buying mine, $15 and I'll ship it. PM, please.
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First thing I did to my 6-speed cars was to install the CAGS bypass. Once installed, I would say 99% of the time I went ahead and shifted 1-2-3-4 - really didn't skip second at all.
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I also do the 1-3-5 and sometimes 1-3-6 now and even before I got the 4:10 rear. Here in Florida it's so flat that you don't need to use all the gears unless you are having some fun. I have the skip shift eliminator but just recently got a hand held tuner and tuned the CAGS out. I did not bother taking the skip shift eliminator off that I had installed. The hand held eliminated the skip shift light from coming on.
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First thing I did was install a CAGS delete and I can't say I skip any gears at all. Just shift around 2k for mpg when I'm cruising around town.
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The CAGS was eliminated… it had to go. It just screwed me up too many times because I enjoy the 1-2-3-4 shift mostly in town. It has been a habit of mine to utilize the full gate through the gears... frequently enough so that it has become second nature.

Often when I'm alone on the road I've enjoyed experiencing a casual acceleration up to varying RPM ranges to enjoy the growl of the exhaust at different levels.

Intentionally skipping a shift requires thought… thinking about your gate pattern… and, to me; it interrupts the synchronized elevation of sound I enjoy from the exhaust when accelerating. Nothing sounds sweeter than the 1-2-3-4 shift.

Bottom line, for me: 1-2-3-4 in town plus 5-6 for a little sweet acceleration on the entrance ramp for the interstate. These vehicles get great gas mileage any way you look at it and… I enjoy a manual shift gearbox.

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I normally use 1-3-5 when driving around town in my Z. There is usually no need for 2nd or 4th when accelerating sedately.
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I have the CAGS bypass (2nd thing I changed after exhaust). I usually go 1st to 3rd while I warm-up the vette & leave it in 3rd (area where I live has 20 mph speed limit). Once I get out to the open road I very the shifting pattern as to how I feel & traffic & speed limits allow. Joys of having a 6 speed...
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I hated the skip shift and have been running one of the CAGS bypass devices on my car since I bought it in 2001. It has always worked well.


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Soon there will be an idiot that will post "drive it like you stole it" and you won't ever need the skip shift eliminator.
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Drive it like you stole it and you won't ever need the skip shift eliminator.
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Originally Posted by ztheusa
Soon there will be an idiot that will post "drive it like you stole it" and you won't ever need the skip shift eliminator.

Originally Posted by Kale
Drive it like you stole it and you won't ever need the skip shift eliminator.

LOL that was fast. When I bought my car it had the CAGS elminator. I removed it and just disabled the "feature" when I re flashed my computer. Sometimes I do 1-3 but I love going through the low gears just to hear the rumble of the exhaust.
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Originally Posted by srandall31
oh btw, eliminates any issues with the annoying skip shift to 4th if you haven't installed the skip shift eliminator yet...
How is it skipping second and shifting to third eliminates CAGS?
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nope.
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I have the bypass,,and still often skip gears,,mostly 1-3-5-6,,as often traffic makes 1-2-3-4 more or less wasted motion!! Sometimes its SO slow,,,I actually do the 1-4 shift myself!! I must admit that I find it MUCH more pleasing to be able to step on it a bit and use ALL the gears though!!!

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Originally Posted by Mark C5
How is it skipping second and shifting to third eliminates CAGS?
Didn't say it eliminated CAGS. Said it eliminates issues with the annoying shift to fourth. Obviously shifting to third does that since the force to 4th is a non issue if ur shifting to third instead.
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Originally Posted by srandall31
Didn't say it eliminated CAGS. Said it eliminates issues with the annoying shift to fourth. Obviously shifting to third does that since the force to 4th is a non issue if ur shifting to third instead.
What do you think CAGS does? It forces you to shift from first to fourth under certain circumstances. You said shifting to third eliminates that.

CAGS does not give you the option to shift to third instead of fourth. Both second and third are locked out when CAGS engages. If you are able to shift from first to third CAGS has not engaged and you could have just as easily shifted into second.

So, simply put, shifting to third does not eliminate the force to fourth, you did that by bringing the RPMs to a level that causes CAGS to not engage.
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Originally Posted by Mark C5
What do you think CAGS does? It forces you to shift from first to fourth under certain circumstances. You said shifting to third eliminates that.

CAGS does not give you the option to shift to third instead of fourth. Both second and third are locked out when CAGS engages. If you are able to shift from first to third CAGS has not engaged and you could have just as easily shifted into second.

So, simply put, shifting to third does not eliminate the force to fourth, you did that by bringing the RPMs to a level that causes CAGS to not engage.
Before I got my bypass,,if CAGS tried a forced fourth,,a slight movement towards 4th and then up to third would get around the CAGS!!


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