Service Column Lock message but still drives normal?
#41
Burning Brakes
So I'm going to throw a wrench in here. I've tried new batteries, checked grounds, even got a column lock bypass and it didn't fix the message. The bypass kept the lock from locking and the cutoff from killing the car but I still have the damn message, every single time I start it.
When I removed the bypass, it just so happened the problem fixed itself, no message, no lock, like nothing ever happened. However that was only temporary and it all came back, so I was forced to install the bypass just so I could drive the car and I've lived with the message.
Does anyone know if I get the LMC5 will it fix the message?
When I removed the bypass, it just so happened the problem fixed itself, no message, no lock, like nothing ever happened. However that was only temporary and it all came back, so I was forced to install the bypass just so I could drive the car and I've lived with the message.
Does anyone know if I get the LMC5 will it fix the message?
#43
So I'm going to throw a wrench in here. I've tried new batteries, checked grounds, even got a column lock bypass and it didn't fix the message. The bypass kept the lock from locking and the cutoff from killing the car but I still have the damn message, every single time I start it.
When I removed the bypass, it just so happened the problem fixed itself, no message, no lock, like nothing ever happened. However that was only temporary and it all came back, so I was forced to install the bypass just so I could drive the car and I've lived with the message.
Does anyone know if I get the LMC5 will it fix the message?
When I removed the bypass, it just so happened the problem fixed itself, no message, no lock, like nothing ever happened. However that was only temporary and it all came back, so I was forced to install the bypass just so I could drive the car and I've lived with the message.
Does anyone know if I get the LMC5 will it fix the message?
Raz
#44
Guys,
I haven't had time to disconnect the negative lead and test voltage, yet, but connected, I'm seeing 12.67 (no load) and still getting the "service column lock" message. I know, I know, LMC5, but trying to solve without it as I don't have a locked column, any other error message or problem.
I just came across an interesting thread.. Is it true the battery should be a group 78? I currently have a group 75 with RC mins of 25 amps (100).
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...ery-types.html
By the way, my terminal bolts look fine or loose. The terminal bolts do look to have minor corrosion, nothing prohibitive it seems. I'm thinking I may as well just replace the terminal bolts instead of cleaning when replacing the battery (as it seems to be sticky around the top).. Does anyone know whether these work..?
Thanks
Raz
I haven't had time to disconnect the negative lead and test voltage, yet, but connected, I'm seeing 12.67 (no load) and still getting the "service column lock" message. I know, I know, LMC5, but trying to solve without it as I don't have a locked column, any other error message or problem.
I just came across an interesting thread.. Is it true the battery should be a group 78? I currently have a group 75 with RC mins of 25 amps (100).
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...ery-types.html
By the way, my terminal bolts look fine or loose. The terminal bolts do look to have minor corrosion, nothing prohibitive it seems. I'm thinking I may as well just replace the terminal bolts instead of cleaning when replacing the battery (as it seems to be sticky around the top).. Does anyone know whether these work..?
Thanks
Raz
Last edited by Razmo; 06-29-2015 at 09:45 PM.
#45
I just started getting the column warning this week. I'm the 2nd owner of my '02 6 Speed.
My battery voltage reads 12.23v and I have it on a trickle charger now. I've not been keeping it on the charger and it is a once a week driver. My bad.
I have a AC Delco 75-7Yr 200 CCA 95 RC battery in it with a date code of May 2012 (assuming it's not May 2002). The battery doesn't appear to be very old but my car and engine bay are very clean.
I'm going to let the trickle charger work until it thinks the battery is charged and then re-test it and see if the warning message stops.
By the way, my steering column doesn't actually lock up and I don't hear the lock mechanism even trying to lock. I can't recall if it ever worked though.
I have to check to see if either of the bypasses were installed previously.
My battery voltage reads 12.23v and I have it on a trickle charger now. I've not been keeping it on the charger and it is a once a week driver. My bad.
I have a AC Delco 75-7Yr 200 CCA 95 RC battery in it with a date code of May 2012 (assuming it's not May 2002). The battery doesn't appear to be very old but my car and engine bay are very clean.
I'm going to let the trickle charger work until it thinks the battery is charged and then re-test it and see if the warning message stops.
By the way, my steering column doesn't actually lock up and I don't hear the lock mechanism even trying to lock. I can't recall if it ever worked though.
I have to check to see if either of the bypasses were installed previously.
#46
I just started getting the column warning this week. I'm the 2nd owner of my '02 6 Speed.
My battery voltage reads 12.23v and I have it on a trickle charger now. I've not been keeping it on the charger and it is a once a week driver. My bad.
I have a AC Delco 75-7Yr 200 CCA 95 RC battery in it with a date code of May 2012 (assuming it's not May 2002). The battery doesn't appear to be very old but my car and engine bay are very clean.
I'm going to let the trickle charger work until it thinks the battery is charged and then re-test it and see if the warning message stops.
By the way, my steering column doesn't actually lock up and I don't hear the lock mechanism even trying to lock. I can't recall if it ever worked though.
I have to check to see if either of the bypasses were installed previously.
My battery voltage reads 12.23v and I have it on a trickle charger now. I've not been keeping it on the charger and it is a once a week driver. My bad.
I have a AC Delco 75-7Yr 200 CCA 95 RC battery in it with a date code of May 2012 (assuming it's not May 2002). The battery doesn't appear to be very old but my car and engine bay are very clean.
I'm going to let the trickle charger work until it thinks the battery is charged and then re-test it and see if the warning message stops.
By the way, my steering column doesn't actually lock up and I don't hear the lock mechanism even trying to lock. I can't recall if it ever worked though.
I have to check to see if either of the bypasses were installed previously.
My lesson: Leave the car on the trickle charger since I only drive it once per week or less.
I still need to check for previous installations of the column lock bypass kits.
Regards.
#47
That's great to hear.. Are you no longer experiencing "remove key & wait 10s" either?
I finally had some time to further investigate my situation. I noticed my battery felt a bit acid sticky on the back side last time I was under the hood. I pulled the battery out this morning and found it sitting in a puddle of battery acid.
Swapping for a group 78 later today.. Crossing my fingers for a cleared DIC after fully charging and installing. Will let you guys know..
Raz
I finally had some time to further investigate my situation. I noticed my battery felt a bit acid sticky on the back side last time I was under the hood. I pulled the battery out this morning and found it sitting in a puddle of battery acid.
Swapping for a group 78 later today.. Crossing my fingers for a cleared DIC after fully charging and installing. Will let you guys know..
Raz
#49
That's great to hear.. Are you no longer experiencing "remove key & wait 10s" either?
I finally had some time to further investigate my situation. I noticed my battery felt a bit acid sticky on the back side last time I was under the hood. I pulled the battery out this morning and found it sitting in a puddle of battery acid.
Swapping for a group 78 later today.. Crossing my fingers for a cleared DIC after fully charging and installing. Will let you guys know..
Raz
I finally had some time to further investigate my situation. I noticed my battery felt a bit acid sticky on the back side last time I was under the hood. I pulled the battery out this morning and found it sitting in a puddle of battery acid.
Swapping for a group 78 later today.. Crossing my fingers for a cleared DIC after fully charging and installing. Will let you guys know..
Raz
#50
#51
I went ahead and swapped my leaky group 75 for a group 78 with 120 RC mins, date code is (5-2015).. As I hoped, the group 78 is a perfect fit in the tray ... Although a group 75 may work, it looks to be the incorrect battery size.
At this point, I've only attached the negative lead as I need a bit more time to remove the bolts and clean up the leads a bit due to the leaky battery. Using my el cheapo centech multimeter, I'm getting 12.73v. Also, the bolts I posted above are a perfect fit as well and very easy to replace. Just pull out the old and pop in the new with a little effort.
Should have more news in a few days..
Raz
At this point, I've only attached the negative lead as I need a bit more time to remove the bolts and clean up the leads a bit due to the leaky battery. Using my el cheapo centech multimeter, I'm getting 12.73v. Also, the bolts I posted above are a perfect fit as well and very easy to replace. Just pull out the old and pop in the new with a little effort.
Should have more news in a few days..
Raz
#53
News...
After installing the new group 78, NO MORE "SERVICE LOCK COLUMN" ERROR MESSAGE or any error message for that matter..
To recap,
1) Checked the installed group 75 battery voltage unloaded after letting it sit on the tender, however didn't remove the negative lead at the time. Voltage showed 12.75.
2) After looking around, noticed the group 75 battery was sticky on the back side and decided to replace it for a group 78 per my findings, a few messages ago.
3) Removed the group 75, let it sit with no battery for a few days.
4) Cleaned up all corrosion and replaced the terminal bolts with the ones I mentioned a few messages ago. They are a perfect fit.
5) Installed the group 78 (which I had charged several days prior to installing) and the negative lead only. Voltage showed 12.72. Plugged up the positive, checked voltage, and showed 12.5.
6) Started her up and NO MORE ERROR MESSAGE
Raz
After installing the new group 78, NO MORE "SERVICE LOCK COLUMN" ERROR MESSAGE or any error message for that matter..
To recap,
1) Checked the installed group 75 battery voltage unloaded after letting it sit on the tender, however didn't remove the negative lead at the time. Voltage showed 12.75.
2) After looking around, noticed the group 75 battery was sticky on the back side and decided to replace it for a group 78 per my findings, a few messages ago.
3) Removed the group 75, let it sit with no battery for a few days.
4) Cleaned up all corrosion and replaced the terminal bolts with the ones I mentioned a few messages ago. They are a perfect fit.
5) Installed the group 78 (which I had charged several days prior to installing) and the negative lead only. Voltage showed 12.72. Plugged up the positive, checked voltage, and showed 12.5.
6) Started her up and NO MORE ERROR MESSAGE
Raz
#54
Burning Brakes
News...
After installing the new group 78, NO MORE "SERVICE LOCK COLUMN" ERROR MESSAGE or any error message for that matter..
To recap,
1) Checked the installed group 75 battery voltage unloaded after letting it sit on the tender, however didn't remove the negative lead at the time. Voltage showed 12.75.
2) After looking around, noticed the group 75 battery was sticky on the back side and decided to replace it for a group 78 per my findings, a few messages ago.
3) Removed the group 75, let it sit with no battery for a few days.
4) Cleaned up all corrosion and replaced the terminal bolts with the ones I mentioned a few messages ago. They are a perfect fit.
5) Installed the group 78 (which I had charged several days prior to installing) and the negative lead only. Voltage showed 12.72. Plugged up the positive, checked voltage, and showed 12.5.
6) Started her up and NO MORE ERROR MESSAGE
Raz
After installing the new group 78, NO MORE "SERVICE LOCK COLUMN" ERROR MESSAGE or any error message for that matter..
To recap,
1) Checked the installed group 75 battery voltage unloaded after letting it sit on the tender, however didn't remove the negative lead at the time. Voltage showed 12.75.
2) After looking around, noticed the group 75 battery was sticky on the back side and decided to replace it for a group 78 per my findings, a few messages ago.
3) Removed the group 75, let it sit with no battery for a few days.
4) Cleaned up all corrosion and replaced the terminal bolts with the ones I mentioned a few messages ago. They are a perfect fit.
5) Installed the group 78 (which I had charged several days prior to installing) and the negative lead only. Voltage showed 12.72. Plugged up the positive, checked voltage, and showed 12.5.
6) Started her up and NO MORE ERROR MESSAGE
Raz
Wait, what? Did you say "CORROSION"? No offense, but, that shoulda led you to the fix.
These damn cars... Voltages and continuity. Go figure...
#55
#57
Update: The trickle charger brought the battery up to 12.83v and the first time I turned the key after charging I got the "Remove Key and Wait 10 Seconds" message. After that, no more Service Column Lock messages.
My lesson: Leave the car on the trickle charger since I only drive it once per week or less.
I still need to check for previous installations of the column lock bypass kits.
Regards.
My lesson: Leave the car on the trickle charger since I only drive it once per week or less.
I still need to check for previous installations of the column lock bypass kits.
Regards.
I decided to install the LMC-5 bypass. Keeping this brief, it works but I also had to do the "brown wire" optional wiring to prevent the "Pull Key..." message.
Hopefully, no more problems with either of these messages now.
#59
#60
My problem was a bad battery even though I had replaced it a year ago prior. Never had any other error messages. Once I replaced my battery, all has been normal, no error messages for me.