2quick98

check this out a good friend of mine Dalton mcquire owns this supra. very fast street car and yes a lot of money spent but just like fyrarms said nothing to mess with even in stock form they are awesome cars away ahead of there time I had a 95 single and miss it dearly

itsmeek

Amen, that guy is a clown. I guess his sub $20k dream car is "cletus's chariot". Or better yet, hes either compensating or just plain jealous. I believe i owned my c5 z06 when i was 22, hes worked his entire life for his base vette. Sad, because an sc300 isnt a bad car. he has nickle and dimed every piece of that bucket and wonders why everyone passed his sc and base vette by at car meets.

A 2jzge engine is worth $400 on a good day... Im willing to bet that clown doesnt even know the difference between a ge and a gte and tells everyone that he drives a vee 6.

All this being said, id get rid of my 42k miles supra in a heartbeat for a c7 z06.

1Willy1

lol are you reffering to me Beast? Wow , another completely false statement.

You guys really need to re-group and think of something better if your going to try to attack me with anything other then a plastic butterknife.

First of all that Lexus I posted, was my first lexus , from years ago, and its an SC400, not an SC300.

Second of all I didn't ever brag about that car as if it was anything special, I just posted it to show my deep dish wheels that I built myself , and I was quite proud as it was the first set I customized.

And your wrong about the block being the only thing in common with supras and SC300's, they do share the same chassis, 2jz-ge engine, interchangeable suspension , brakes ,sway bars and many other parts.

Although the SC is far better looking, far more luxurious, and comfortable, they are considered to be cousins because of these similarities.

I will admit the 6 speed GTE - TT models are worthy of some respect but the base model GE's are just AWFUL and not worth more half of what they are selling for.

1Willy1

HAHAH your sig photo says it all, you a little mad huh bro?

Sorry about that , as they say the truth does hurt

RSbeast

You bet. 400 eh? Even better. They share a block. Not a rotating assembly, not a head, not an ignition, not an intake. They don't share a Trans, rear or axles. Ditto the suspension and brakes.

It doesn't matter what bolts on; it's what it IS.

66dts-v

I would give my C5 and my left nut for a MK4 turbo Supra. But they made less of the turbo Supras than they made of my color/year C5. The SUV killed it (and a lot of great cars), sad but true.

dbgoodwin

Eh. I love the supra, but it would take 3 of them to get me to trade my SWZ. The c5 looks better, performs better, and sounds better when lightly modified.

1Willy1

I don't want top keep dragging this out, nor do I want to make this a personal beef with me and you or me and others, we differ on opinions that's fine, I don't mind at all, I like a fun debate.

But with regards to the similarities between the supra and sc300 you should check again, the base model supra shares the exact same engine, 2jz-GE , the tranny , W-58, chassis and much more.

That's all , not arguing, just stating that point .

That's how I feel as well, I was looking through the classifieds here tonight just for kicks and even the NA- base model supras, with the W-58 tranny and the 2jz-ge non turbo motor are still selling for C5 money.

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/o...ationFlag=true

I find it hard to belive someone would spend $13.5 k on this car, You would need another 5k+ 10k to turbo this car and make it handle the power, your well into the $20k+ range at that point, then you would need to get into a body kit, wheels and coilovers to make it look good, that's another 5k+, doesn't make any sense to me.


This to me is much more reasonably priced, I actually considered buying this car at one time the guy is a member of club lexus.

Its a Toyota aristo, (lexus Gs300), and it comes with the infamous 2jz-GTE, already single turboed, nice wheels, only downfall is its automatic.

But at a fraction of the price of the supra it makes much more sense to me

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/c...ationFlag=true

FYRARMS

a) I did debate your "facts". You said all the Supra has to offer was a good engine. I corrected you. You failed to acknowledge the transmission, the diff, the brakes, etc.

b) The majority of your comments were merely personal opinion. Oddly, you don't find the Supra attractive, don't like the interior, etc. How can opinion be objected to?

c) If you feel people were "attacking" the Corvette, it is because they obviously find it odd that someone slamming the Supra with opinion-based comments on appearance and on the supposed crowd the car appeals to is driving a C5 Corvette---also a car that can easily be slammed for the exact same reasons.

FYRARMS

Looks and sounds are obviously personal preference. Performance is hard to compare, unless you are talking about 100% stock vehicles. In that case, obviously a C5Z wins the match. As you mentioned, "lightly modified" = keep the C5Z. But for the guys who like to go fast, it becomes a different story. Unfortunately, for us C5Z owners, it would take a modded ZR1 TR6060 trans and a braced ZR1 diff fitted with Driveshaft Shop halfshafts to even approach the Supra's 22-year-old OEM transmission and OEM rear diff strength. Want reliable power levels over 600rwhp? Yeah, better tear down and upgrade that LS engine. Or, just leave the entire OEM Supra longblock alone.

RSbeast

N/a supra is not a 'real' supra and clearly is not the vehicle of discussion. Again they share nothing with 'the real thing'. Also, they are clearly worth crap comparatively.

It's barely par with an Mkiii

So again, no; it shares nothing.

Johnny wangwang

We should let this thread Die. Who cares about a supra Turbo or not lol. If I wanted to own one I wouldve bought a 97 with 100k miles for the price I paid for my 2002 Z with 40k.

Beau168

Bit late to the post as I joined only a few months ago with my C5....

But anyway, having come from the UK and owning Supra's and seeing what others have done with them there to, I can tell you they are awesome cars, and if you truly are a car guy you'll damn well respect the supra for it's engineering.

I'm sure it's been mentioned why they're fast before but I thought I could elaborate. The 2JZ-GTE is a very strong engine stock that can handle very high power. From a stock point of view, the twin turbo set up and fueling can be tuned to get you an aditional 100HP easily. The good thing about these Supra's is that Toyota built them strong. The geerbox is made by Getrag (who make the rear C5 diffs), and are known to take abuse. This goes for the entire drive train.

Modding them is where there is a massive advantage over the corvette's. Bigger turbo, injectors, IC setup and fuelling and you have yourself a quick car. Just to give you a little example you could pick up a second hand complete Big turbo setup for under 2000 pounds, about $3000. The engine's very easy to work on as well. This can have you running 1000BHP easily. How much $$$ does it take to get a vette up into that area?

Anyway, they're not good cars to compare because in theory the Supra was a generation behind the C5. 1992-2002. Compared to the 1997-2004. But in essence it really does show you how much of a great car it was for it's time.

I hope to one day bring my supra over here in the states!

Dominic Toretto

LOL checked my user CP and this thread showed up. Barely on here anymore. Supras are so 1990s. Technology has improved vastly from well over two decades ago. Anyone still impressed by a Supra hasn't driven a C5 or newer Corvette.

-Alex