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Old Apr 9, 2016 | 09:25 AM
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This marks the third winter with our car.

Winter 1: The car was stored in our garage with a tender on it all winter. Spring time rolled around, no issues.

Winter 2: Car went to heated storage. The battery was disconnected over the winter. A few days before I picked it up it was put on a battery charger then at home back on the tender, no issues.

Winter 3: Car again went to heated storage, only the battery was not disconnected. It was jumped to get it started right before I picked it up. Being told it was dead I put it on my charger for a day, then my tender before I headed out for a week long trip. Arriving home the tender light is still red which means it's charging. I'm surprised it hasn't moved to green maintaining yet.

The battery is an AC Delco. Per the battery code it was new in March of 2014.

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Old Apr 9, 2016 | 09:34 AM
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was it disconnected to charge it ??? how are the connections ??? sure garage was heated at all times, frozen batt = junk ??????
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So if I understand, winter #3 the car was stored with battery connected and no tender? If that is the case the battery was more than likely totally discharged, may be damaged and will no longer take a full charge.
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was it disconnected to charge it ??? No. how are the connections ??? sure garage was heated at all times, frozen batt = junk ?????? Yes, definitely heated.
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So if I understand, winter #3 the car was stored with battery connected and no tender? Yes.If that is the case the battery was more than likely totally discharged, may be damaged and will no longer take a full charge.
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Fully discharging a battery takes a toll on the battery and reduces it's life by about half. Regardless of the advertisements, a battery tender isn't the best tool for a discharged battery. It should be put on a regular charger until is fully recharged. A regular charger bring the battery up much faster and it will be better for the battery.
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Old Apr 9, 2016 | 10:29 AM
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Probably time for a new battery. Maybe get a 120RC or so this time...
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Originally Posted by grantv
Probably time for a new battery. Maybe get a 120RC or so this time...
I don't think reserve capacity is going to make much difference if the battery is left connected in a stored car for 6 months without a tender. It's still probably going to discharge.
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Where you went wrong was leaving the battery connected over the winter w/o a tender.

Keep in mind that the warmer temps of a heated garage only serve to expedite the battery's demise as the chemical activity inside the battery is greater, not less, in warmer temps. This means it will discharge faster and more completely in warmer temps vs cold. Although, it would probably be dead by now even if it was in a cold garage without a tender.

You are probably best served at this point by getting a new battery. You might be able to skate along with this one, but given the C5's sensitivity to battery voltage, I wouldn't chance it.

Good luck.
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Originally Posted by 4XLR8N
Where you went wrong was leaving the battery connected over the winter w/o a tender.

Keep in mind that the warmer temps of a heated garage only serve to expedite the battery's demise as the chemical activity inside the battery is greater, not less, in warmer temps. This means it will discharge faster and more completely in warmer temps vs cold. Although, it would probably be dead by now even if it was in a cold garage without a tender.

You are probably best served at this point by getting a new battery. You might be able to skate along with this one, but given the C5's sensitivity to battery voltage, I wouldn't chance it.

Good luck.
The place where I stored it would not allow tenders over the winter, so I had no choice. Having it disconnected would have probably served me better.

Oh well, last winter for storage. Once in the new house it will be home year round.
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Originally Posted by jptgs1
The place where I stored it would not allow tenders over the winter, so I had no choice. Having it disconnected would have probably served me better.

Oh well, last winter for storage. Once in the new house it will be home year round.
Yes. The owners manual recommends disconnecting battery if car isn't driven for 25 days to avoid discharge. Sounds like you have it under control now.
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For what it's worth, I've never disconnected the battery of my C-5, during winter storage (unheated garage). I'm out in the garage enough over the winter, either fixing something, or using the snow blower outside, that I put the charger on it for 60-90 minutes, once a week. I have an attached garage, so there's NO WAY I'll leave any kind of charger hooked up all the time.
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
For what it's worth, I've never disconnected the battery of my C-5, during winter storage (unheated garage). I'm out in the garage enough over the winter, either fixing something, or using the snow blower outside, that I put the charger on it for 60-90 minutes, once a week. I have an attached garage, so there's NO WAY I'll leave any kind of charger hooked up all the time.
Battery tenders are designed to be hooked up all the time and since you are out there to check up on it often, a tender would work perfect for you. Since it can get to 30 below zero here, I pull my battery out, put it in the basement with a tender on it and check it once in awhile. In the summer if I am not going to drive it for a week or two I connect the tender.
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Originally Posted by tbrowne
Fully discharging a battery takes a toll on the battery and reduces it's life by about half. Regardless of the advertisements, a battery tender isn't the best tool for a discharged battery. It should be put on a regular charger until is fully recharged. A regular charger bring the battery up much faster and it will be better for the battery.
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Old Apr 9, 2016 | 01:31 PM
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A friend of mine had the same problem with their Porsche 911. A one year old battery, the car sat for a year, and a 15 amp charger would not bring it up, despite connecting a second battery to trick the charger. I took the battery to NAPA, where she bought it, and they then put in on a 50 AMP charger/car starter, the one that is on wheels. After 6 hours, it had plenty of juice.

FYI: Many C5 owners have had problems with conventional batteries leaking acid and damaging wires and the PCM, which is under the battery tray. Another friend of mine spent $1500 repairing the damage from the battery leaking. The first thing I did when I bought my car was to pick up an AGM battery. I have had good luck using an Optima battery, but will not buy them, now that they are made in Mexico. East Penn Battery Corp. makes NAPA batteries and sells Duracell Batteries at Sam's Club for a pretty reasonable price. I went that route.
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Originally Posted by thisMSGgood4me

P.S. A battery that was supposedly new in March of 2014 couldn't have gone through 3 winters, only 2 (winters 2014/15 and 2015/16).
Good comment. I can't explain how I bought the car in April of 2103 and the battery is coded March 2014?

I didn't change it!
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Originally Posted by jptgs1
Good comment. I can't explain how I bought the car in April of 2103 and the battery is coded March 2014?

I didn't change it!
You better go back to the future and get to the bottom of it.
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You better go back to the future and get to the bottom of it.
Damn, I gave my flux capacitor to one of my neighbors!

BTW - Battery has been on the charger 3+ days. 11.5 volts max.

Time for a new one.
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Originally Posted by jptgs1
Damn, I gave my flux capacitor to one of my neighbors!

BTW - Battery has been on the charger 3+ days. 11.5 volts max.

Time for a new one.
Yes, it is time.
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Originally Posted by jptgs1
Damn, I gave my flux capacitor to one of my neighbors!

BTW - Battery has been on the charger 3+ days. 11.5 volts max.

Time for a new one.
looks like you still have warranty on the battery.can you take it back even if it is prorated.good luck
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