Notices
C5 General General C5 Corvette and C5 Z06 Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Some days it doesn't pay to leave the garage

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-16-2016, 03:54 PM
  #21  
rrwirsi
Melting Slicks

 
rrwirsi's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2014
Location: Havre de Grace Maryland
Posts: 3,137
Received 1,216 Likes on 776 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by phoneman91
Well stated. I would like to expand on your statement.

If we would substitute "young","old", "tall", or "short". or "blonde" for "Pakistani" or "Asian" in the original poster's statement--would he still be worthy of all of this criticism and piousness shown by some of the posters on this thread?

When does a nationality become a slur? What is racist about being a Pakistani or Asian--or noting such? The OP used a adjective modifier to show that the person just isn't a normal smart Asian.

Let everyone not be quick to judge others as racist. Always surprises me that people who wouldn't ever use the "N" word---easily use the "R" word--when it involves people that they don't really know.
This racial identity conflict will never end until everyone starts calling themselves, Americans and not American Indians, not African Americans, not German Americans, not Italian Americans, not Black, not White, not Asian, and not Hispanic, etc. We are one American people with a variety of heritages. First Americans, then our heritage.
rrwirsi is online now  
The following 5 users liked this post by rrwirsi:
CindysC5 (09-18-2016), craig04c5 (09-18-2016), f6john (09-16-2016), Fed Up (09-18-2016), Tonygxp (09-17-2016)
Old 09-16-2016, 04:03 PM
  #22  
CJ1957
Burning Brakes
Support Corvetteforum!
 
CJ1957's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2007
Location: Olympia WA
Posts: 898
Received 47 Likes on 38 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by rrwirsi
This racial identity conflict will never end until everyone starts calling themselves, Americans and not American Indians, not African Americans, not German Americans, not Italian Americans, not Black, not White, not Asian, and not Hispanic, etc. We are one American people with a variety of heritages. First Americans, then our heritage.

Last edited by CJ1957; 09-16-2016 at 04:04 PM.
CJ1957 is offline  
Old 09-16-2016, 04:11 PM
  #23  
Black 02
Safety Car
 
Black 02's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2011
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 4,260
Received 427 Likes on 316 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by phoneman91
Well stated. I would like to expand on your statement.

If we would substitute "young","old", "tall", or "short". or "blonde" for "Pakistani" or "Asian" in the original poster's statement--would he still be worthy of all of this criticism and piousness shown by some of the posters on this thread?

When does a nationality become a slur? What is racist about being a Pakistani or Asian--or noting such? The OP used a adjective modifier to show that the person just isn't a normal smart Asian.

Let everyone not be quick to judge others as racist. Always surprises me that people who wouldn't ever use the "N" word---easily use the "R" word--when it involves people that they don't really know.
Nice try. Considering Asian women have the stereotype of being bad drivers, we know exactly what he was thinking and why he posted what he did.

If someone called my wife a "dumb *** Asian lady" in traffic, it would not end well.

His post could have been made without including nationalities of the people involved, it's just useless information that he felt the need to include because they aren't like him or he thinks he is better for some reason. Guess what pal, you're not.
Black 02 is offline  
Old 09-16-2016, 04:13 PM
  #24  
tommypenguin
Drifting
 
tommypenguin's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2011
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 1,589
Received 377 Likes on 187 Posts
2022 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2021 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
C5 of Year Finalist (appearance mods) 2019

Default

One of the golden PC rules in this country is to not use race when describing someone according to main stream media. Also there are a few other things the OP should have done, let me make a suggestion.

To be PC the OP could have said a human being of no specific gender, nationality, height, weight, age, sexual orientation, smell, backed into his car. On second thought, human can be construed as offensive to robots so perhaps organic entity would be less offensive to use. I'm sure I'm missing some other adjectives referencing people that provide detail to stories you are not allowed to use when being PC even if you aren't insulting a person based on those descriptions.

Last edited by tommypenguin; 09-16-2016 at 04:34 PM.
tommypenguin is offline  
The following 2 users liked this post by tommypenguin:
blackmachdown (09-16-2016), Tonygxp (09-17-2016)
Old 09-16-2016, 04:19 PM
  #25  
JR-01
Le Mans Master
 
JR-01's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2013
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 8,900
Received 1,063 Likes on 805 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by akapounder
is that much different from dumb as* lady ????
Just one word different.
My wife is Asian and she has to deal with racism from superior white folks almost everyday.

Last edited by JR-01; 09-16-2016 at 04:23 PM.
JR-01 is offline  
Old 09-16-2016, 04:22 PM
  #26  
Pounder
1/4 mile/AutoX
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Pounder's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2014
Location: Buffalo Texas
Posts: 11,276
Received 2,082 Likes on 1,635 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JR-01
Just one word different.
what no simile after that ??
Pounder is offline  
Old 09-16-2016, 04:26 PM
  #27  
Black 02
Safety Car
 
Black 02's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2011
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 4,260
Received 427 Likes on 316 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JR-01
Just one word different.
My wife is Asian and she has to deal with racism from superior white folks almost everyday.
Yeah, it happens a lot more than people realize.
Black 02 is offline  
Old 09-16-2016, 04:29 PM
  #28  
pewter99
Team Owner

Support Corvetteforum!
 
pewter99's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 1999
Location: Here
Posts: 174,237
Received 1,194 Likes on 704 Posts
Pilot of Beer Force 1
Tampa Regional Coordinator
CI 4-5-6-7-8 Veteran
Organizer St. Jude Fundraiser
I believe in the Beer Fairy


Default

Originally Posted by doublec4
Not sure how this post is offensive and/or racist. He simply described the people as per their race/nationality. He didn't even say anything derogatory about them? I think you guys are either being way too sensitive or assuming things because of the context of the post.


explains why we get so many reported posts about stuff thats not really an issue
pewter99 is offline  
The following users liked this post:
f6john (09-16-2016)
Old 09-16-2016, 04:33 PM
  #29  
pewter99
Team Owner

Support Corvetteforum!
 
pewter99's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 1999
Location: Here
Posts: 174,237
Received 1,194 Likes on 704 Posts
Pilot of Beer Force 1
Tampa Regional Coordinator
CI 4-5-6-7-8 Veteran
Organizer St. Jude Fundraiser
I believe in the Beer Fairy


Default

Originally Posted by phoneman91
Well stated. I would like to expand on your statement.

If we would substitute "young","old", "tall", or "short". or "blonde" for "Pakistani" or "Asian" in the original poster's statement--would he still be worthy of all of this criticism and piousness shown by some of the posters on this thread?

When does a nationality become a slur? What is racist about being a Pakistani or Asian--or noting such? The OP used a adjective modifier to show that the person just isn't a normal smart Asian.

Let everyone not be quick to judge others as racist. Always surprises me that people who wouldn't ever use the "N" word---easily use the "R" word--when it involves people that they don't really know.
these are the same people who said Trump was racist when he said Mexicans....uhhh...thats not racist...Mexican describes where they are from kinda like Americans...PC has ruined this country...YMMV
pewter99 is offline  
The following 9 users liked this post by pewter99:
1Willy1 (09-19-2016), bikeriderga (09-18-2016), CindysC5 (09-18-2016), f6john (09-16-2016), Ferg03 Z06 (09-16-2016), friou (09-17-2016), ssrallyred (09-16-2016), stingraymyway (09-18-2016), WERA61 (09-18-2016) and 4 others liked this post. (Show less...)
Old 09-16-2016, 04:42 PM
  #30  
thisMSGgood4me
Drifting
 
thisMSGgood4me's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,643
Likes: 0
Received 167 Likes on 149 Posts

Default

To those who say what the OP posted was offensive and racist, I have a question for you. Was any part of his post not factual? The lady was Asian, was that not factual? The dudes were Pakistani, was that not factual as well? Ok, he called the lady a dumb ***, that might just be his opinion based upon her actions, but it could also be factual, again based upon her actions. Point here is, I didn't see any racial slurs, which by definition would be racist and thus offensive. But it didn't happen. So to those people, I say get off your high horse, calm down and get a grip. Some of you people are way too damn sensitive.

Last edited by thisMSGgood4me; 09-16-2016 at 04:44 PM.
thisMSGgood4me is offline  
The following 6 users liked this post by thisMSGgood4me:
C2 to C7 (09-19-2016), CindysC5 (09-18-2016), f6john (09-16-2016), friou (09-17-2016), phoneman91 (09-16-2016), ssrallyred (09-16-2016) and 1 others liked this post. (Show less...)
Old 09-16-2016, 04:57 PM
  #31  
JR-01
Le Mans Master
 
JR-01's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2013
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 8,900
Received 1,063 Likes on 805 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by pewter99
these are the same people who said Trump was racist when he said Mexicans....uhhh...thats not racist...Mexican describes where they are from kinda like Americans...PC has ruined this country...YMMV
This country is ruined? Really? I better move.
JR-01 is offline  
Old 09-16-2016, 04:57 PM
  #32  
Black 02
Safety Car
 
Black 02's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2011
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 4,260
Received 427 Likes on 316 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by pewter99


explains why we get so many reported posts about stuff thats not really an issue
Figures. Can't say a word about a bad vendor but it's perfectly fine to talk about an entire race in a negative light.
Black 02 is offline  
The following users liked this post:
Studying4boards (09-16-2016)
Old 09-16-2016, 05:00 PM
  #33  
thisMSGgood4me
Drifting
 
thisMSGgood4me's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,643
Likes: 0
Received 167 Likes on 149 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Black 02
Figures. Can't say a word about a bad vendor but it's perfectly fine to talk about an entire race in a negative light.
Ok, where did the OP "talk about an entire race in a negative light"?

Last edited by thisMSGgood4me; 09-16-2016 at 05:02 PM.
thisMSGgood4me is offline  
Old 09-16-2016, 05:02 PM
  #34  
knewblewkorvette
Race Director

Support Corvetteforum!
 
knewblewkorvette's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2003
Location: Iowa
Posts: 13,995
Received 2,706 Likes on 1,668 Posts
St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'05-'06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16'-'17-‘18-'19-'20-'21-'22-
'23-'24


Default

knewblewkorvette is offline  
Old 09-16-2016, 05:02 PM
  #35  
norcalace
Burning Brakes
 
norcalace's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2014
Posts: 803
Received 234 Likes on 137 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by thisMSGgood4me
To those who say what the OP posted was offensive and racist, I have a question for you. Was any part of his post not factual? The lady was Asian, was that not factual? The dudes were Pakistani, was that not factual as well? Ok, he called the lady a dumb ***, that might just be his opinion based upon her actions, but it could also be factual, again based upon her actions. Point here is, I didn't see any racial slurs, which by definition would be racist and thus offensive. But it didn't happen. So to those people, I say get off your high horse, calm down and get a grip. Some of you people are way too damn sensitive.
"Some of you people are way too damn sensitive."
Ok, who you calling people?
norcalace is offline  
Old 09-16-2016, 05:04 PM
  #36  
thisMSGgood4me
Drifting
 
thisMSGgood4me's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,643
Likes: 0
Received 167 Likes on 149 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by norcalace
"Some of you people are way too damn sensitive."
Ok, who you calling people?
Oops, was that offensive or racist? My bad!

Last edited by thisMSGgood4me; 09-16-2016 at 05:05 PM.
thisMSGgood4me is offline  
Old 09-16-2016, 05:04 PM
  #37  
Jeff T.
Race Director
 
Jeff T.'s Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2007
Location: Arlington Hts, IL
Posts: 15,905
Received 1,090 Likes on 797 Posts
St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15-'16-'17-'18-'19-'20-'21-'22-'23-'24


Default

Jeff T. is offline  

Get notified of new replies

To Some days it doesn't pay to leave the garage

Old 09-16-2016, 05:08 PM
  #38  
Pounder
1/4 mile/AutoX
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Pounder's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2014
Location: Buffalo Texas
Posts: 11,276
Received 2,082 Likes on 1,635 Posts
Default

Until we all stand in someone else shoes we cannot really understand some remarks, there is a friend of mine here who is of different race and what he just went though at a airport none of us would like to deal with !!!!! I personally do not look at color, if you act like a human being you can be my friend, if not I will just avoid you !!!! Someday we will all get along hopefully !!!!
Pounder is offline  
The following 4 users liked this post by Pounder:
Black 02 (09-16-2016), CindysC5 (09-18-2016), friou (09-17-2016), Studying4boards (09-16-2016)
Old 09-16-2016, 05:10 PM
  #39  
jjc508520
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
jjc508520's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2014
Location: East Windsor NJ
Posts: 2,327
Received 386 Likes on 286 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jjc508520
Waiting on the inspection line with the Corvette and this dumb *** Asian lady rolls right into the back of me! I yell at her - 'The exam building is over there' and the contractor behind her In a pickup truck starts cracking up. Some black smudges below my license plate that should come out. I take a picture of her license plate and she starts jumping up and down and waving her arms around - saying the marks were already there and she wants my picture too!

Then at the gas station earlier this morning the Pakistani dudes are yakking on the phone and no one is pumping - the lady behind me gets all impatient - throws one wheel up on the curb - and wants to drive around me! I start yelling at her and she clears my car by about an inch.

Sometimes it doesn't pay to take it out of the garage - but anyhow inspection station guys were loving the vette - they passed me even with no front license plate!
OK - I was just stating the facts. Should I have added that the lady at the gas station was a stressed-out WASP?

I'm now waiting for a meteor to hit the car when I step outside from work...
jjc508520 is offline  
Old 09-16-2016, 05:15 PM
  #40  
blackmachdown
Melting Slicks
 
blackmachdown's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2007
Location: Highlands Ranch CO
Posts: 2,013
Received 169 Likes on 120 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by tommypenguin
To be PC the OP could have said a human being of no specific gender, nationality, height, weight, age, sexual orientation, smell, backed into his car. On second thought, human can be construed as offensive to robots so perhaps organic entity would be less offensive to use. I'm sure I'm missing some other adjectives referencing people that provide detail to stories you are not allowed to use when being PC even if you aren't insulting a person based on those descriptions.
You almost had it right... unfortunately your micro-agression has triggered me, and violated my safe space I will be reporting this post to the moderators.
blackmachdown is offline  
The following users liked this post:
tommypenguin (09-16-2016)


Quick Reply: Some days it doesn't pay to leave the garage



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:35 AM.