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Old 10-15-2016, 10:03 PM
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Old 10-16-2016, 09:05 AM
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The z06 did great for a fraction of be price

it's now 2016 vs a car from 2002 !
Old 10-16-2016, 11:59 AM
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I'll take the Mustang. Better brakes, suspension, seats, and sounds amazing!

The Mustang has come a long way.
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I must admit, the sound of the flat plane V8 is intoxicating.
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Old 10-16-2016, 12:50 PM
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Looks like the track was slick with some better tires I think you might could have passed him or a lest been right on the bumper . I have a 04 Z-16 with cam Etc. stock sup. and can out run a stock C-7 right now and have out ran C-6Zs right now ,I think it's a weight the Hp deal .. I love it .. AND YES I HAVE VIEDO .One of the guys in my Corvette club sold his C-7 after he could not catch me on a track day ..This old C-5s make great HOT RODS...
Old 10-16-2016, 01:04 PM
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The Corvette is a sports car. It is not a race car.

The Mustang has never been a sports car.
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Cool vid.
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Originally Posted by ztheusa
The Corvette is a sports car. It is not a race car.

The Mustang has never been a sports car.
But it HAS been a RACE car
Road Racing[edit]
FR500C[edit]

Ford Mustang FR500C GT4
Powered by a 5.0L "Cammer R50" engine, it delivers 420 hp (313 kW). It includes a Tremec T56 6-speed transmission and other race-spec parts including a Grand Am-spec rollcage. It is permitted to be used in the Grand Am Grand Sport (GS) Class.[1]
The FR500C can either be obtained as a turnkey costing $125,000 or by modding an existing Mustang GT with specified parts from Ford Racing.[2]
It is also known by its nickname "Boy Racer", assigned by Ford executives.
This model won the manufacturers title in the Koni Challenge racing series in 2005 & 2008. This was after several attempts to slow the car down- such as a rearend gears change and additional weight.
FR500S[edit]
Powered by Ford's 4.6L V8 engine, it is rated at 325HP. The FR500S is often slotted in between the FR500C ('Boy Racer') and FR500GT ('Man Racer'). The car was designed by both Ford Racing and Miller Motorsports for the Ford Racing Mustang Challenge series (a racing series founded by Larry Miller). The car features similar aerodynamic parts like those used on the FR500GT, but uses a DOT approved racing[3] tire- BFGoodrich g-Force R1.
With the end of the Ford Racing Mustang Challenge,[4] the FR500S has been homologated for competition in the SCCA World Challenge GTS class.
FR500GT[edit]
Codenamed Man Racer, the 5.0L V8 engine is rated at 550 hp (410 kW). This model features all of the features of a full race car, from heavily modified suspension to the large aerodynamic parts (which are effective). It also uses a 5.0L V8 engine built by Roush/Yates.
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Originally Posted by ztheusa
The Corvette is a sports car. It is not a race car.

The Mustang has never been a sports car.
The Mustang GT350 and GT350 R are as much a Sportscar as any recent Vette. The have Vette sized wheels and tires under them, great balance, awesome brakes, and that wonderful flat plane crankshaft that only Ferrari uses in many of its cars.

Suck it up, Corvette's are great, but tons of other cars these days can run with them on the street and the track. That is a good thing.
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Old 10-16-2016, 10:06 PM
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I love the new GT-350, great car! However, my LS7 C5Z would make quick work of it on the track. Around town definitely take the new GT
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Up your power a bit (cam ,headers, tune) and put some good tires on it and try again.
Those Bridgestones are probably costing you a few seconds per lap.

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lol, takes Ford years and years to catch up with what GM has been doing for a long time. Maybe in a few years they'll have something that can actually keep up with a C6 Z06. Right around the time the C8 comes out. At least it's more than Chrysler can say...well, FCA.

I highly doubt there are still that many cars that can compete with a C5 Z06 let alone the newer Z's. I looked all over for anything out there, and there's nothing that comes close unless you want to spend big dollars. I'm not into dropping $50k on a car, don't need to spend that much to enjoy driving. And the stuff that is that expensive now, merely comes close to the Z and many times still can't beat it or only barely does. Only thing I'd consider replacing the C5Z with is a C6Z, but they'd need to come down in price.

Vettes are proven reliable too. I'd have zero faith in that Ford engine, and it's a new one on top of it. Ecoboost engines are already starting to have problems as more people get them near 100k miles, I didn't have that much faith in my 5.0 Mustang when I had it (But I had warranty, and planned to sell it when it ran out).
. I agree with you on the old Corvette C-5 Z cars one hell of a hot rod for the money . I know people that have $50+ in a hot rod they built and some or building now . I tell them go buy a C-5 Z put a little money in it and have a way better performing hot rod than your building for way little money compared to the money going into your build .I know HOT ROD value when I see it . This video was made not by me a friend I show people it so then see what a stock 04 Z-16 can do on the track . My 04 Z is the Corvette right behind the silver Sl-500 V-12 all the Corvette behind me are C-6-Zs and a few C-7s I do go out of the pic . Speed reference passed the start finishes line at 155 MPH. It how has 100 more HP still stock Sup. on open track out run C-7s (NOT ZO-6s) 6 car lengths easy win Corvette shows also and I have under $30,000 in it so I'm with you show winner out run $65,000 new Corvette for under $30,000 got A/C also ,a $75,000 mush tang might run with it and they need to bring the R with them.. Just saying these C-5Zs make great HOT RODS..
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I'm surprised it was that close. The Z had more weight/HP to carry around on less/inferior rubber. I still prefer the Z but then I'm biased anyway. Great video!!
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cool video

I have to give credit to not only mustang but American manufacturers in general, they are really making some very cool cars with a ton of power.

I would of thought the Z would of gained more ground on the corners , but ive never been on a track so what do I know

Anyways the new mustangs are cool but I dont think id ever own one

I really like the challenger SRT's, big heavy cow of a car but for some reason I really like them
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Originally Posted by 1Willy1
cool video

I have to give credit to not only mustang but American manufacturers in general, they are really making some very cool cars with a ton of power.

I would of thought the Z would of gained more ground on the corners , but ive never been on a track so what do I know

Anyways the new mustangs are cool but I dont think id ever own one

I really like the challenger SRT's, big heavy cow of a car but for some reason I really like them
Agreed. I've never owned a Dodge car, but if I had to buy in that budget, it'd be on the list for a test drive with the Camaro, don't think the Mustang would cut it (unless the C8 was around, fixed the rear, and was reasonably priced used). For now I am more than happy with my old Z.
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:00 PM
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They're really all disappointing. Drove one of each (GT, SS, R/T). Mind you it was a few years ago so the newest Mustang and Camaro were not out yet. I rather find the C5Z as well as my Nissan of the same vintage to have a simple but functional interior, as opposed to the Camaro and Challenger which was just patently ugly for a car that was so new and awfully low rent. Mustang interior slightly better, but looks like (and is) an updated 2005 interior that even shares some of the same parts. Each of them felt respectable power wise, but a joke compared to even a base C5. I mean hell, these new ones have all this power but they feel exactly on par with a 4th gen Camaro Z28. Just updated with more large pillars and designs that make them hard to see out of.

The only ones that even feel worth it are the performance variants: GT500, ZL1, and SRT 392. But now you're talking $35k+ used and $50k+ new and those really only address the performance aspect, does nothing for the poor visibility and cheap interiors. Plus I consider it a con to be a part of the bickering feud that is Mustang vs Camaro vs Challenger. When you have Corvette, you're automatically exonerated from their petty squabbles. Idiots tried to race me all the time in the Mustang, but they leave me alone in the C5Z so far (Now random Grand Marquis, Altimas, and the family minivan are all racing past me everywhere ).
All good points. In all honesty after posting it I thought to myself, would I actually switch to any of the 3 if I could. The answer is no. Nor would I to a C7...
Scares me that you say the Mustang has the nicer interior, seen one and was really disappointed.
If for some reason I was forced to dump my Z I'd go one of M3, AMG, maybe C6 (?), really don't know.
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Old 10-18-2016, 12:11 AM
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Gotta say, not one of them is as nice inside as our old C5's IMO. At least ours have a cockpit type look and feel. Yes, the radio and heater controls look a tad outdated.
All of those you showed look almost like they belong in an old station wagon.


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