Keeping exhaust tips straight and level?
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Keeping exhaust tips straight and level?
I have a set of four tip GHL Bullets that I bought off the forum about 4 years ago. Previous owner had tack welded the tip portion to the muffler pipe to keep it from turning. I ground that off this past spring when I installed my headers and was tweaking the overall positioning.
I may go get them tack welded back, but regardless the rear tips always seem to be uneven, not level from side to side. Seems the pipes on these GHL bullets have slightly different curvatures between the sides. Something that I thought was a quality thing (could still be), but I checked with another owner and his was the same way. I'll have to get pics added to help explain. Passenger side looks and fits perfect. Driver's side hits the rear fascia and sits crooked.
Just wondering if anyone else had a similar issue and what you did to keep it all in position and straight? Any unique or creative solutions? I keep picturing a straight bar like the SLP(?) system welded up between the sides.
I may go get them tack welded back, but regardless the rear tips always seem to be uneven, not level from side to side. Seems the pipes on these GHL bullets have slightly different curvatures between the sides. Something that I thought was a quality thing (could still be), but I checked with another owner and his was the same way. I'll have to get pics added to help explain. Passenger side looks and fits perfect. Driver's side hits the rear fascia and sits crooked.
Just wondering if anyone else had a similar issue and what you did to keep it all in position and straight? Any unique or creative solutions? I keep picturing a straight bar like the SLP(?) system welded up between the sides.
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Well, not sure you want to hear this but I had a similar style but not the same brand. I wound up going to an exhaust shop and having them re-bend the offending pipes to get them as close as possible to each other and then had them welded. Think it cost me a couple hundred extra onto the cost of the original sticker price of the exhaust. But they looked pretty good when done. If you know someone that can do it cheaper for you I'd look into that.
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I had fun getting/keeping my Corsa Tiger Sharks aligned. I finally realized that the 37-ftlb torque they recommended for the cat-backs was just not enough. I finally spent about an hour getting them right several years ago and applied extra torque to the clamps and no further problems - no welding.
I personally don't think welding a plate across the right and left would be a great idea?
I personally don't think welding a plate across the right and left would be a great idea?
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Well, not sure you want to hear this but I had a similar style but not the same brand. I wound up going to an exhaust shop and having them re-bend the offending pipes to get them as close as possible to each other and then had them welded. Think it cost me a couple hundred extra onto the cost of the original sticker price of the exhaust. But they looked pretty good when done. If you know someone that can do it cheaper for you I'd look into that.
I had fun getting/keeping my Corsa Tiger Sharks aligned. I finally realized that the 37-ftlb torque they recommended for the cat-backs was just not enough. I finally spent about an hour getting them right several years ago and applied extra torque to the clamps and no further problems - no welding.
I personally don't think welding a plate across the right and left would be a great idea?
I personally don't think welding a plate across the right and left would be a great idea?
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Do the GHL Bullets not have the tabs on the exhaust pipes to go into the U bracket the OEM mufflers do? You can do a lot to those brackets to keep them relatively even; modify the rubber insert, add/remove rubber, etc. I'd think that would be the cheaper alternative before having a shop modify them (which honestly wouldn't be that expensive either, but would be time consuming).
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Do the GHL Bullets not have the tabs on the exhaust pipes to go into the U bracket the OEM mufflers do? You can do a lot to those brackets to keep them relatively even; modify the rubber insert, add/remove rubber, etc. I'd think that would be the cheaper alternative before having a shop modify them (which honestly wouldn't be that expensive either, but would be time consuming).
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I had fun getting/keeping my Corsa Tiger Sharks aligned. I finally realized that the 37-ftlb torque they recommended for the cat-backs was just not enough. I finally spent about an hour getting them right several years ago and applied extra torque to the clamps and no further problems - no welding.
I personally don't think welding a plate across the right and left would be a great idea?
I personally don't think welding a plate across the right and left would be a great idea?
I have 4 inch quad GHL Bullets and would not weld anything across this set up.....There are other options, bending and tweaking to get the four lined up straight....
The can on the passenger side sits a little lower than the one on the left from the rear on my car, but the pipes line up straight.....
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Finally got a picture tonight. The cans are pretty much evenly positioned, yet the driver's side tips are crooked. They look like they are angled down a bit, and also down to the right if that makes sense. Simply turning the tips up would appear to fix it at first. What is harder to see in the photo is how close the driver's side tip is to the rear fascia. It has in fact worn off my vinyl wrap on that side from rubbing.
I may have to loosen the driver's side pipe at the over the axle part, re-angle the can a bit, then retighten. That will probably bother me too though. Still won't stay that way long term either.
I think I'll give up the bar idea. Not really what I want to do anyway. It may come down to just getting it where I want and some tack welds to hold it there. Probably at both the tip section and the over the axle slip joints.
I may have to loosen the driver's side pipe at the over the axle part, re-angle the can a bit, then retighten. That will probably bother me too though. Still won't stay that way long term either.
I think I'll give up the bar idea. Not really what I want to do anyway. It may come down to just getting it where I want and some tack welds to hold it there. Probably at both the tip section and the over the axle slip joints.
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They did not heat the pipes up. They put them into the exhaust bending machine they had. Didn't leave any marks that I could tell, but mine weren't that shiny to begin with. If you go this route I would make sure to ask them before they attempt it with your setup so they don't damage or mark up anything.
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Had 4 tip LG Big 3. Passenger side came welded crooked. Had my muffler shop being just 2 tips to the center and they welded a tab just upstream from the tips connecting left pipe to right pipe. No more wiggling out of position AND I think the mod is responsible for completely eliminating drone!
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Had 4 tip LG Big 3. Passenger side came welded crooked. Had my muffler shop being just 2 tips to the center and they welded a tab just upstream from the tips connecting left pipe to right pipe. No more wiggling out of position AND I think the mod is responsible for completely eliminating drone!
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I think I see my problem. Seems the driver's side rear exhaust insulator hanger is weak and allowing the muffler section to move. I'm going to mess with it more tomorrow and should be able to tighten it up more.
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I had fun getting/keeping my Corsa Tiger Sharks aligned. I finally realized that the 37-ftlb torque they recommended for the cat-backs was just not enough. I finally spent about an hour getting them right several years ago and applied extra torque to the clamps and no further problems - no welding.
I personally don't think welding a plate across the right and left would be a great idea?
I personally don't think welding a plate across the right and left would be a great idea?