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Old Oct 8, 2017 | 05:09 PM
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Hey everyone. I'm usually just here to admire all the cars {hence why I'm a "fan"} and to lurk, but I have a question.

Why are almost all the quarter mile cars forced induction but the hpde cars are na? Couldn't all track cars benefit from higher power? Thanks in advance for your consideration.
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Old Oct 8, 2017 | 05:34 PM
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[QUOTE=C0rvetteFan;1595725452]Hey everyone. I'm usually just here to admire all the cars {hence why I'm a "fan"} and to lurk, but I have a question.

Why are almost all the quarter mile cars forced induction but the hpde cars are na? Couldn't all track cars benefit from higher power? Thanks in advance for your consideration.[/QUOTE
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one problem is keeping belts and pulleys functioning. Turbochargers have lag, Power is nice on long straight aways, but not always useful while turning (too much power can be a detriment)
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Originally Posted by C0rvetteFan
Hey everyone. I'm usually just here to admire all the cars {hence why I'm a "fan"} and to lurk, but I have a question.

Why are almost all the quarter mile cars forced induction but the hpde cars are na? Couldn't all track cars benefit from higher power? Thanks in advance for your consideration.[/QUOTE
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one problem is keeping belts and pulleys functioning. Turbochargers have lag, Power is nice on long straight aways, but not always useful while turning (too much power can be a detriment)
Interesting. So I always thought that when I bought a corvette I would go to amateur events at different tracks /drag strips. Is it possible to have a car that does it all?
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Old Oct 8, 2017 | 05:54 PM
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does it all YES.....does it all well at all places NO

too many different variables to plan for
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Old Oct 8, 2017 | 10:44 PM
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does it all YES.....does it all well at all places NO

too many different variables to plan for
I see.. Interesting.
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forced induction creates a lot of extra heat which isn't a good thing for a race that sees nothing but high rpms for an extended amount of time so that's why you generally don't see them on road courses... it also doesn't take as much power to get around a track due to all the turns, look at miatas for example... you can make an n/a car fast in a drag race though and still be able to take it on a road course, it just depends on how far you want to go with it because different types of racing require different setups if you are serious/competitive
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Originally Posted by neutron82
forced induction creates a lot of extra heat which isn't a good thing for a race that sees nothing but high rpms for an extended amount of time so that's why you generally don't see them on road courses... it also doesn't take as much power to get around a track due to all the turns, look at miatas for example... you can make an n/a car fast in a drag race though and still be able to take it on a road course, it just depends on how far you want to go with it because different types of racing require different setups if you are serious/competitive
Is there anyway to make forced induction feasible for a road course? Or is it better just to go for a big na setup if you want to drag race and road race? {thanks for your time guys, this is theoretical for me right now}
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Is there anyway to make forced induction feasible for a road course? Or is it better just to go for a big na setup if you want to drag race and road race? {thanks for your time guys, this is theoretical for me right now}
You can make forced induction run cooler, but it does take a bit of work. Larger intercooler, meth injection, etc.
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You can make forced induction run cooler, but it does take a bit of work. Larger intercooler, meth injection, etc.
​​​​​​Great answer, thanks.
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Maybe you could set your car up for road racing NA and then use a shot of nitrous for the strip.
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Originally Posted by C0rvetteFan
Interesting. So I always thought that when I bought a corvette I would go to amateur events at different tracks /drag strips. Is it possible to have a car that does it all?
Basically comes down to how much money you're willing to spend. To have a car that can do it all, you'll probably end up spending more than the combined cost of going down each route, and it will still be a compromise. It may be more cost effective to have one car for each purpose, if you go beyond amateur or intermediate levels.

Adding forced induction adds front end weight, which will impact handling. You could go with a rear turbo setup, but then you won't be able to make as much power.

Then there is your tire and suspension setup. Optimal drag tires and wheels are completely different from optimal autocross tires and wheels. I also believe optimal suspension setups also differ from drag to autocross, but I'm not going to pretend to be an expert here.

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Originally Posted by 3sACROWD
Maybe you could set your car up for road racing NA and then use a shot of nitrous for the strip.
Nice idea!
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Originally Posted by Tsumi
Basically comes down to how much money you're willing to spend. To have a car that can do it all, you'll probably end up spending more than the combined cost of going down each route, and it will still be a compromise. It may be more cost effective to have one car for each purpose, if you go beyond amateur or intermediate levels.

Adding forced induction adds front end weight, which will impact handling. You could go with a rear turbo setup, but then you won't be able to make as much power.

Then there is your tire and suspension setup. Optimal drag tires and wheels are completely different from optimal autocross tires and wheels. I also believe optimal suspension setups also differ from drag to autocross, but I'm not going to pretend to be an expert here.
So you could use the rear turbos and switch out tires.... Thanks for all the ideas guys.
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The fastest driver around a racetrack (HPDE) is the one who knows how to use his brakes, not his accelerator.
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Asking about the vehicle setup. But okay cool.
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