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Old 01-12-2019, 11:02 AM
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Yeah you drove your crap hard then got under it and touched the bellhousing by the transmission to know how hot it was.

Yeah right.

While you were there I guess you didn’t notice the axle back exhaust turns up and hugs the TT/Transmission. Gee I wonder if that causes the torque tube to be hot? Guess I need a thermal engineering course (and dropout like you) to figure it out.
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I'm impressed. Have you ever taken an engineering course on thermodynamics and heat transfer? Let me know how the 'hand test' works out. I have to admit that heat was not such a big deal on my '02 coupe but a complete insulation of the tunnel made a whopping difference on the '11 GS .... so I went back and did the '02 also. I can keep candy in the console on each vehicle.
Hershey chocolate?
anyway, the insulated tunnel plate greatly reduced the cabin heat plus stiffened up the ride on curves and corners for me and i also insulated the console box so I CAN keep chocolate candy in it if i wanted to...
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Old 01-12-2019, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ~Josh
Yeah you drove your crap hard then got under it and touched the bellhousing by the transmission to know how hot it was.

Yeah right.

While you were there I guess you didn’t notice the axle back exhaust turns up and hugs the TT/Transmission. Gee I wonder if that causes the torque tube to be hot? Guess I need a thermal engineering course (and dropout like you) to figure it out.
Ever heard of a 'lift' .... or a 'quick jack'? They actually lift the car up for easy access underneath. It's s wonderful invention. And the exhaust doesn't 'turn up' until it reaches the diff. It 'Y's' out but stays horizontal alongside the tranny. It certainly doesn't 'hug' the TT on my cars. You should know this basic fact.





For those that have insulated only the plate, check TT heat after driving and let us know what you find. If you discover that it's cool (ambient) you just witnessed a miracle! Engine block heat ~150 min...... tranny heat ~ 150 min ..... TT sandwiched in the middle ... 90? You bet.

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Why were you racing to touch the TT after driving it hard?

Have you actually done that or was that made up?
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Why were you racing to touch the TT after driving it hard?

Have you actually done that or was that made up?
You don't have to drive hard or 'race' to check. Bring the car to temp, lift it up and and check for yourself. The TT will be hot even if the plate and exhaust have been insulated. I did it to prove to myself that the TT itself is a major source of cabin heat. Insulating the exhaust and exhaust tunnel plate is a partial fix. I'm sure the 'Elite' plate helps but you get a much better result if you insulate the tunnel alongside and above the TT.

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Not saying that insulating the tunnel isn’t a good idea, only that the vast majority of the heat is coming from the exhaust.

-later
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No experience with the products referenced. I used reflectix from the hardware store to line the interior of the entire car and was pleasantly surprised at the improvement. I think it cost me $50
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Aside from the heat shield, the elite plate is much more of a backbone than the thin stamped factory piece.

If you plan to keep your car long term it’s worth the money.


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Originally Posted by ~Josh
Aside from the heat shield, the elite plate is much more of a backbone than the thin stamped factory piece.

If you plan to keep your car long term it’s worth the money.


...the original tissue thin GM pos is just that....a pos...
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Originally Posted by ~Josh

the torque tube doesn’t get hot because it’s “connected to the engine and tranny”.

it gets hot because there’s an exhaust 1” away that runs it’s entire length.
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Originally Posted by ~Josh
Yeah you drove your crap hard then got under it and touched the bellhousing by the transmission to know how hot it was.

Yeah right.

While you were there I guess you didn’t notice the axle back exhaust turns up and hugs the TT/Transmission. Gee I wonder if that causes the torque tube to be hot? Guess I need a thermal engineering course (and dropout like you) to figure it out.

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FWIW _ I also put the Elite on my 04 and it does a great job ! Another thing I did was buy a insulating kit for the inside of my car from a vendor no longer on the forum and that helped cut down on the heat even more so.

I think I read in the past that some people here on the forum were putting 2 of the tunnel plate covers on their cars to stiffen them up. Definitely a cheaper alternative if it works
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Originally Posted by Bobd207s
FWIW _ I also put the Elite on my 04 and it does a great job ! Another thing I did was buy a insulating kit for the inside of my car from a vendor no longer on the forum and that helped cut down on the heat even more so.

I think I read in the past that some people here on the forum were putting 2 of the tunnel plate covers on their cars to stiffen them up. Definitely a cheaper alternative if it works
Maybe 5 plates would be even better? No...one thick aluminum Elite plate will do maximum stiffness...these thick plates do not flex...
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Our TPS Tunnel plate does a great job with eliminating chassis flex and when ordered with our Thermal Shield it eliminates the excessive heat from the center console/ transmission tunnel


http://www.tpsmotorsports.com/tps-mo...shielding.html


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Originally Posted by ~Josh
Not saying that insulating the tunnel isn’t a good idea, only that the vast majority of the heat is coming from the exhaust.

-later
here’s how hot.......pretty sure the TT won’t do this

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Originally Posted by drewkeen
I have been reading up on this. I see there are options from ceramic coating, to precut insulation to DIY solutions.

I just want to cut down a bit of the heat coming from my tunnel into the car. It is not a daily driver so I do not need the best thing available, just something to help with the heat.

Anyone have a recommendation on a type of heat insulation that will hold up in this environment and not be overly expensive?
I used Elite Engineering 1/4" with Thermal ABS - AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME.

Here is a link to my post. Pics and others with same experience in heat reduction.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ermal-abs.html

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Headers and cats feels like 2x the heat from stock. I currently have whitelighting on my headers and all the DEI kit but still feel a good amount of heat and its all from my cats, once I move up a class it will be nice to drill a massive hole in them. You can also add a c6 tunnel cover thats much thicker than the c5 tunnel cover for cheap.


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We've been having some of this ssme discussion overe HERE for a week or so.

Some solutions include wrapping the primaries. For the cats or collectors DEI offers an insulated steel stand off plate and a similar standoff as just fiberglas. And my own recommendation was DEI tunnel shield 2 sheets up in the actual tunnel over the TT and/or also covering the back of the tunnel plate. The material is very light so we're not adding excessive weight.







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