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Old 05-12-2019, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackHellcat View Post
My Vette puts down 623 & would get raped by any of the fast crotch rockets & so would my Hellcat.
Acceleration, very likely the bike would be quicker. Top speed? Maybe, maybe not, depends on the bike. I know a guy with a supercharged Corvette C5 (he claims 517 WHP) who did a "40 roll" against a crotch rocket (he didn't know what brand or model of bike). Apparently, from 40 MPH to well over 100 MPH, the bike accelerated much more quickly. However, the bike topped out at 145 MPH, whereupon the Corvette passed the bike and hit 160 MPH before letting up. Keep in mind that a few guys claim to have reached 182 MPH in a stock C5 coupe with the 2.73 factory gearing (C5 ZO6 tops out at 176 due to inferior fixed roof aerodynamics versus the coupe).
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:57 AM
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One other factor....you can get a 2005 to 2010 Litre Sport Bike for $5,000 or less and you would have to spend a ton more on a Sports Car to even come close. But then the bike isn't as comfortable in the rain or at the Drive-in movies....
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Old 05-12-2019, 11:40 AM
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The new top of the line Lightnings were making 320 HP with a motor weight of 42 pounds, put one of those on each wheel of a modern car and you have the ultimate. All gas burners seemed to be headed for the trash shortly or so it seems...

They are also keeping the raps on techs to make electricity real efficiently and do away with most of the batteries.

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Some of those bikes are so fast that you think you were going backwards.
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:27 PM
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Old 05-12-2019, 08:03 PM
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Some of the liter-class sportbikes will run mid-9's @ 150mph, stock, in the 1/4 and top out around 200mph.

That Kaw H-2 in the video above, has around 270hp (factory supercharged) and weighs around 500lbs.

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Old 05-12-2019, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by USAZR1 View Post
Some of the liter-class sportbikes will run mid-9's @ 150mph, stock, in the 1/4 and top out around 200mph.
the H2 i think went to 250 mph
very fast,, indeed
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Old 05-12-2019, 08:12 PM
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the H2 i think went to 250 mph
very fast,, indeed
Most, if not all of the liter-class stuff, are electronically limited to 186mph (300kmh) but those controls can be removed, pretty easily.
Yeah, those H-2's are insane.
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Old 05-12-2019, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by USAZR1 View Post
Most, if not all of the liter-class stuff, are electronically limited to 186mph (300kmh) but those controls can be removed, pretty easily.
Yeah, those H-2's are insane.
yea i agree the H2 is insane, once you go above 160 mph on a bike its like you are high, the feeling is insane especially if you lift your helmet visor
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Old 05-12-2019, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck A View Post
yea i agree the H2 is insane, once you go above 160 mph on a bike its like you are high, the feeling is insane especially if you lift your helmet visor
Can't say I've ever lifted my visor at those speeds but the tunnel vision is definitely a funky experience. I enjoyed blasting to 185 quickly but never felt the urge to linger there very long!
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I know there are a lot of insanely fast Sports Cars out there. But I don't think you can get the feeling of ripping through the gears on a litre bike and hitting 150 plus. I always find a place I can go 125 to 150 every time I ride. The other cool thing is passing. Where you would squeak by passing a single car with a fast Sports Car you can pass 4 or 5 with the bike instantaneously. Just twist the throttle and you are there. It's sort of like warp drive in Star Wars..... Everybody should have that experience.

Where the good Sports Cars shine is in the corners. Four wheels are always better than two, and the contact patch of 4 big tires is a hundred times that of two sport bike tires. Haven't done any track days with my C5, just on a Sport Bike. Even track days are pretty pricey.

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Old 05-12-2019, 10:09 PM
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In a Cammed/Maggie’d 6-speed ‘99 I spanked a Katana 600 at any speed it tried. Each rip ended with it behind the car.

In a bolt-on C5z from a 2nd gear roll I was behind a 929rr by about 2 cars at the worst point but gaining after shifting into 4th. If the race kept on he’d have been behind in 5th the way it was going.
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:18 PM
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In a Cammed/Maggie’d 6-speed ‘99 I spanked a Katana 600 at any speed it tried. Each rip ended with it behind the car.

In a bolt-on C5z from a 2nd gear roll I was behind a 929rr by about 2 cars at the worst point but gaining after shifting into 4th. If the race kept on he’d have been behind in 5th the way it was going.
Sounds about right, but both those bikes are slow in their modern categories. A stock C5Z would spank a Katana too.

929rr is easily down about 60-80hp to a modern liter bike! That's crazy.
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:26 PM
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pretty much, a mildly modded or even heads/cam c5 will get easily walked by most 600s but a 600+hp boosted c5 starts to get competitive... around 8-850 you can start pulling away from 1000s but once the bikes start to mod then you have to mod accordingly lol
I said the fast ones, not all of them lol.
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Old 05-12-2019, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackie N View Post
Can't say I've ever lifted my visor at those speeds but the tunnel vision is definitely a funky experience. I enjoyed blasting to 185 quickly but never felt the urge to linger there very long!
what bike do you ride?
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Old 05-13-2019, 08:49 AM
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what bike do you ride?
Had a bunch over the last 20 years... all 3 sizes of GSXRs, a KTM 990 R, 2 ZX10s, Honda rc51 and 1000rr, etc. I sold my last one 3 years ago, got bored of riding. My wife still has her 1000rr in the garage but that's gonna be sold soon too.

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Old 05-13-2019, 09:07 AM
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& some bikes go "Splat" right at the end ...
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Old 05-13-2019, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ShagVette View Post
Yes, most bikes are faster.
Not a cruiser Harley.
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:19 AM
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Most Rs or RRs are very fast, hard to keep up with. Even the 600s do tens.

The issue is, like cars, most street riders don't know what they are doing. If you ride a performance bike you NEED to take a high performance school. like the California Superbike School or the YAMAHA CHAMPIONS RIDING SCHOOL (preferably both).



https://www.cycleworld.com/sport-rid...rmance-numbers
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:42 AM
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Had a little conversation with the MotoAmerica Superbike champ a few weeks ago. My son and Cameron's bike, after a small issue at turn 5 at VIR during the Superpole qualifying.

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