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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 11:41 PM
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For around $8000 you can add 150 to 200 full time horsepower to the LS6 with a supercharger. Doesn't it cost roughly half that just to change cams in an LT5? The LS6 is much cheaper to go fast. The LT5 is one of the most exotic looking engines ever produced anywhere. I don't think I'd want to screw one up by changing it too much anyway.
For about that much you can have the ZR-1 at 500 at the crank.

What do the non-turbo 427's on a normal tune for the street dyno at?

edit. For $9600 a stock CID car will dyno at about 430 hp at the wheels which is about 505 at the crank. This is on the stock cams, ported heads, ported plenum, injector housings, new flywheel, headers, exhaust and tune. . After talking with Mark he thinks that the price for his package maybe coming down now that the heads can be CNCed instead of hand ported


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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 12:42 AM
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What do the non-turbo 427's on a normal tune for the street dyno at?
500 at the rear wheels.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 02:31 AM
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has anyone ever switched motors: put an LS6 in a ZR-1 or LT5 in a ZO6?
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 10:33 AM
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What do the non-turbo 427's on a normal tune for the street dyno at?

500 at the rear wheels.
That is tuned for pump gas and everything?
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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Default Re: LS6 v LT5 question (jimmy2004)

has anyone ever switched motors: put an LS6 in a ZR-1 or LT5 in a ZO6?
I don't think I've heard of anyone doing this. Man that would be cool opening the hood of a Z06 and seeing an LT5 under there! Then again, an LT5 would look cool in any car.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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What do the non-turbo 427's on a normal tune for the street dyno at?

500 at the rear wheels.

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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 04:57 PM
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I don't think I've heard of anyone doing this. Man that would be cool opening the hood of a Z06 and seeing an LT5 under there! Then again, an LT5 would look cool in any car.
LT5 wouldn't fit without a custom hood and maybe some wheelwell work. It's tall and wide compared to an LS6 or even a Northstar.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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That is tuned for pump gas and everything?
Here is a link to MTI's Z07 package (427)
http://www.motorsporttech.com/z07.asp
AP Engineering just finished a mild 427 that laid down 451 rwhp on a Mustang Dyno.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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Wow only 550 hp? Im a little disapointed.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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Wow only 550 hp? Im a little disapointed.
That is 550+ at the rear wheels, if you are disappointed in that you should be shopping for a used rocket sled.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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Default Re: LS6 v LT5 question (Devil Dog)

Im aware that is 550 at the wheels. But coming from a 427 it is not that impressive. The LT5 427 makes way more rwhp then that.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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Much more bang for the buck, but the lacking the effortless RPM capability of an LT5. Certainly a solid roller setup could rev to 7500 rpm, but it won't be as streetable.
I agreed with everthing you said in this post except the part where you say that a sold roller set up to rev to 7500 rpm wouldn't be as streetable. Solid rollers "seem" smaller to the motor. If cam X and cam Y have the same specs, a motor with the solid roller will have a smoother idle and behave better at lower and mid rpms.

BTW, what 427 LT5 are you referring to? From what I can gather, a 427 LT5 is basically undoable unless you've got money to burn:
http://www.lt5registry.net/forums/vi...um=8&Topic=176


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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 10:29 PM
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The 427 Lt5 has been done and it dynoed at 650 hp on a mild tune, just after it was built and installed in the car.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 10:36 PM
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I agreed with everthing you said in this post except the part where you say that a sold roller set up to rev to 7500 rpm wouldn't be as streetable. Solid rollers "seem" smaller to the motor.
True, but you need a radical grind to make the kind of power we're talking about. If you've ever heard an MTI Z07 ay idle, it's not exactly civilized. My 415 ZR-1, on the other hand, idles nearly as smoothly as a Z06. BIG difference here, nuke.

And we haven't even discussed having to adjust valve lash on a solid roller motor!
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 12:28 AM
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True, but you need a radical grind to make the kind of power we're talking about.
Oh, I get it. I thought he was comparing hydraulic to solid, but it was a comparison between an LS6 making 500 rwhp and an LT5 doing the same. As good as the LS6 is, the LT5 is a bad ****.

Yes, I know that a 427 LT5 has been done, but is it readily available... or do you have to have gobs of cash and find the only place in the U.S. that does it?
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 09:05 AM
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If I took a LT5 to LPE it would cost (per the website) $33,900 for a 415ci 610bhp motor.

If I took a LS6 to LPE I could get a 427ci with 550bhp for $7000 less or TT 650bhp for $7000 more.

So it all reality the costs are very close.
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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Sure, IF you used LPE on both counts. However, MTI Motorsports does a 427 for $18K, so this brings up the question again... there are many places that will do a 400+ bore/stroke LS1/6, but where can you get the same thing for an LT5?
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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there are many places that will do a 400+ bore/stroke LS1/6, but where can you get the same thing for an LT5?
Im coming up with 5 off the top of my head.

Edit: you don't have to bore/stroke the LT5 to get 400 at the wheels


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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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There seem to be more and more people doing LT5 things these days, even that TT project looks promising.
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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Default Re: LS6 v LT5 question (nuke61)

Sure, IF you used LPE on both counts. However, MTI Motorsports does a 427 for $18K, so this brings up the question again... there are many places that will do a 400+ bore/stroke LS1/6, but where can you get the same thing for an LT5?
That was the reason I used LPE as an example. They do both and offer the same warranty for both. MTI doesn't work on the LT5 so I cannot use them in a comparision. Make any sense?
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