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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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**Update: Pictures of the MAF and measurements have been added below. **

So here's how I 'thought' MAF sizes/features went.
97-01 78mm MAF with 3 wire hook-up
02-04 85mm MAF with 5 wire hook-up

So...I picked up a spare 3-wire MAF I have in the garage and decided to use my new digital calipers to test it.

Being that's it's three-wire I should come up with 78mm somewhere..right?

Inside diameter is 85mm (3.3"), outside is 90mm (3.5")

Wall thickness of the MAF is 2.5mm, which makes sense, as the OD is 5mm larger than the ID.

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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by muncie21
So here's how I 'thought' MAF sizes/features went.
97-01 78mm MAF with 3 wire hook-up
02-04 85mm MAF with 5 wire hook-up
There were actually three versions:
97-00 75mm MAF with 3 wire hook-up
01-04 85mm MAF with 5 wire hook-up
02-04 85mm MAF with 5 wire hook-up & no screen (Z06 only)

I can't explain what you measured.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Lucky
There were actually three versions:
97-00 75mm MAF with 3 wire hook-up
01-04 85mm MAF with 5 wire hook-up
02-04 85mm MAF with 5 wire hook-up & no screen (Z06 only)
I can't explain what you measured.
Will the 01-04 85mm with 5 wire hook-up work on a 97-00 car which called for a 75mm unit? Is the plug the same?
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Originally Posted by 6SPD98
Will the 01-04 85mm with 5 wire hook-up work on a 97-00 car which called for a 75mm unit? Is the plug the same?
The plug is different (5-wire vs. 3 wire) and obviously the diameter is different.

The good news is that they make plug adapters for the MAF/IAT and other adapters for the air bridge.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 6SPD98
Will the 01-04 85mm with 5 wire hook-up work on a 97-00 car which called for a 75mm unit? Is the plug the same?
Well, one has 5 wires, and one has 3, so no, they are not the same. 01 and up have an integral IAT sensor, hence the extra wires.
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Here are some pictures for the 'show me' crowd out there.

What we've got here is a 3-wire MAF.


So...being a 3-wire job, it should measure 78mm right?
hmmm, not here. OD is 90.xxmm


OK, so what about the ID....
Uhh, nope...measures right at 85mm



Guys I gotta be missing something here....tell me what it is!
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In addition to your clocks, have you set back your calipers?
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 07:13 AM
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Possibly an aftermarket 85mm MAF sensor for a '97-'00?
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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Very interesting. Do you have a newer true 85mm MAF to compare with? Also, do you have a metric ruler you can measure with just to confirm that your digital caliper is measuring correctly.

I have to admit, I'm confused. I have always heard that the 1997-2000 MAF is a 3" and the 2001+ is a 3.5" I was about to upgrade to a newer MAF, but now I'm not so sure it's needed.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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I verified the caliper accuracy with a measuring tape.

For those that are metric/SAE challenged like myself here's the conversions:
78mm=3.07"
85mm=3.35"
90mm=3.54"
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by muncie21
I verified the caliper accuracy with a measuring tape.

For those that are metric/SAE challenged like myself here's the conversions:
78mm=3.07"
85mm=3.35"
90mm=3.54"

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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by muncie21
No ideas??
I just looked at your measurement picture again.

Are you measuring the narrowest part of the I.D.?
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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Maybe your filter is allowing dirt to pass. Then after billions of cubic feet of dirty air passing thru the TB at high speeds there has been a slow attrition of the ID.

Now this is just MAYBE.......


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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 6SPD98
Will the 01-04 85mm with 5 wire hook-up work on a 97-00 car which called for a 75mm unit? Is the plug the same?
http://paceperformance.com/index.asp...arch=CAS108100
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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Now that you have me wondering,Yesterday I bought a 01 ZO6 mass air (5 wire plug)from auto zone for my 97.On the screen side outside to outside it is 98mm,inside is close to 94mm.Other side, outside is 93.50mm,inside is 88.90mm .....................Paul
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You are measuring at the wrong place in the ID. You have to measure the smallest diameter inside the MAF.

1mm = .03937"

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