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The guys over on the LS forum are talking about this new intake manifold. It was developed by Starr Performance in Australia and marketed in the U.S. by Weiand. It was introduced at the SEMA show, and is scheduled for March 2008 availability. It looks promising. http://v8tvshow.com/content/view/445/1/
What is the major benefit over FAST? Just lower weight because it is plastic? What is the weight difference?
The benefit is hopefully better performance, at a lower cost. It also appears to be a better appearing, better finished manifold than the FAST is.
The FAST is plastic too. Probably no weight difference. The reason plastic was even mentioned, is so no one confuses it with the aluminum Weiland intake that's been on the market for years.
The FAST is only worthwhile when it's ported. $1300-1800 for a ported FAST setup (and 90mm TB) is kinda pricey for a 20hp gain over the LS6 manifold.
If this one performs better out of the box, needs no porting, fits/seals well and has a nice smooth finish, and sells for less than a grand...well, needless to say it's going to be a very popular piece.
On the other hand, pre-production manufacturer's hype is usually too good to be true too...so we will have to wait and see the real results once customers start to get their hands on them.
The benefit is hopefully better performance, at a lower cost. It also appears to be a better appearing, better finished manifold than the FAST is.
The FAST is plastic too. Probably no weight difference. The reason plastic was even mentioned, is so no one confuses it with the aluminum Weiland intake that's been on the market for years.
The FAST is only worthwhile when it's ported. $1300-1800 for a ported FAST setup (and 90mm TB) is kinda pricey for a 20hp gain over the LS6 manifold.
If this one performs better out of the box, needs no porting, fits/seals well and has a nice smooth finish, and sells for less than a grand...well, needless to say it's going to be a very popular piece.
On the other hand, pre-production manufacturer's hype is usually too good to be true too...so we will have to wait and see the real results once customers start to get their hands on them.
This has been discussed in the Fi forum a couple weeks ago ,about how well will it hold up Under boost,If they send me one i will try it out ,I would think the price of the Fast system is now in Competition & They will have to lower there prices ,which makes it nice for the consumers pocket book,i hear retail of 635.00 ,so somewhere in the 500 range Maybe a little more , maybe a little less ,
I noticed that they said performance was up to 6200 RPM. Doesn't that seem a little low, given that a lot of the cammed cars run out to 64-6500+ RPM? The pricing undercuts the FAST 90 by a couple hundred bucks, so I'm definitely going to keep an eye on this...
Great intake for a bolt-on or mild H/C application (220's @ .050)....increases TQ from off idle to 5500 or so where the FAST would start to show its stuff. At 6500 plus the FAST would be running away and I bet a ported FAST is still 15-20 HP stonger at, and past peak HP where the longer runners and much smaller cross section are starting to choke things a bit with the new design.
If you have a set-up that peaks early and dont get hung up on big dyno numbers, the new design will add a nice kick to your SOTP on the bottom which certainly has its place in the market (all of this assuming a production piece works the same as some of the tested prototypes).
If you have a stroker or you're buzzing a 346 to 6800+ this intake probably isn't the best choice for peak HP, roll racing, and quartermile times. Im excited about the promise of a larger volume shorter runner set-up down the road, but as of now this is the only style that we might see on the market in the reasonably near future.
I did look like a well engineered piece....Kudos to Peter Starr and the others that were involved with its design.
Tony
Last edited by Tony Mamo @ AFR; Nov 11, 2007 at 05:20 PM.
Great intake for a bolt-on or mild H/C application (220's @ .050)....increases TQ from off idle to 5500 or so where the FAST would start to show its stuff. At 6500 plus the FAST would be running away and I bet a ported FAST is still 15-20 HP stonger at, and past peak HP where the longer runners and much smaller cross section are starting to choke things a bit with the new design.
If you have a set-up that peaks early and dont get hung up on big dyno numbers, the new design will add a nice kick to your SOTP on the bottom which certainly has its place in the market (all of this assuming a production piece works the same as some of the tested prototypes).
If you have a stroker or you're buzzing a 346 to 6800+ this intake probably isn't the best choice for peak HP, roll racing, and quartermile times. Im excited about the promise of a larger volume shorter runner set-up down the road, but as of now this is the only style that we might see on the market in the reasonably near future.
I did look like a well engineered piece....Kudos to Peter Starr and the others that were involved with its design.