Headlight System from germany with halogen or xenon
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St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17,'19,'22
Hello,
thank you for your interest!
I'll answer all the questions in the next days.
Today we have weekend here in germany and fantastic weather conditions.
I think that would be the last chance so drive some kilometers with my corvette.
Tomorrow I'll start to answer the questions.
By the way: Here is the complete Thread of the development process, starting only with some ideas and photoshop models, going to construction and prototyping and building the final kits.
It's only in the german language (sorry about that) but you can see a lot of pictures.
http://www.corvetteforum.de/thread.p...did=22855&sid=
OK, see you tomorrow
thank you for your interest!
I'll answer all the questions in the next days.
Today we have weekend here in germany and fantastic weather conditions.
I think that would be the last chance so drive some kilometers with my corvette.
Tomorrow I'll start to answer the questions.
By the way: Here is the complete Thread of the development process, starting only with some ideas and photoshop models, going to construction and prototyping and building the final kits.
It's only in the german language (sorry about that) but you can see a lot of pictures.
http://www.corvetteforum.de/thread.p...did=22855&sid=
OK, see you tomorrow
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Since my German is horrible, it was pretty quick to scroll through the 30 pages. I didn't want to register there, so I could only see the pics that showed up in the thread as opposed to all of the ones attached as images.
Looks like a pretty interesting lighting solution. Can't wait to see it come to market here.
I thought I saw some comments in there asking if it was possible to use Carbon Fiber instead of fiberglass. Will it be possible to get carbon fiber bodies here?
Although it looks pretty good with the bodies painted to match the car.
For those that didn't see it - here are the install instructions in English.
http://www.velumen.de/wiki/doku.php?...elines_english
Nice little assembly line pictured in a few of the posts. Also, notice how long they worked on this. Over a year and a half. It looked like there were a few bugs that got ironed out too.
chris
Looks like a pretty interesting lighting solution. Can't wait to see it come to market here.
I thought I saw some comments in there asking if it was possible to use Carbon Fiber instead of fiberglass. Will it be possible to get carbon fiber bodies here?
Although it looks pretty good with the bodies painted to match the car.
For those that didn't see it - here are the install instructions in English.
http://www.velumen.de/wiki/doku.php?...elines_english
Nice little assembly line pictured in a few of the posts. Also, notice how long they worked on this. Over a year and a half. It looked like there were a few bugs that got ironed out too.
chris
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Hi,
ok I'm back again. Lost some gas yesterday and burned some tires
OK let's answer the questions:
1. Price : Thats the big question. I can't make an offer for sale to you at the moment. My intention is to find a contact to bring the kit to you. At the moment we are two people and we have to build each HID Kit by hand. Especially the fiberglass bodies are made by hand, and consume much time (about 3 hours for each kit, with cleaning the form and cutting the bodies)
So we are looking for contacts, which have knowlege and experience in building fiberglass bodies.
So these contact would build the bodies for the kit and we deliver all the other things.
We have a price here in germany already to get back our costs for development, but I can not guarantee that you could translate this to US$.
I dont't know the costs for shipping, tax and all the other things we have to think about.
So please be patient we will discuss this point in the future.
2. The kit comes with hella 50mm lens modules. The german modules have the necessary control stamps for the german Technical Inspection Agency. The US modules are equal but have other control stamps on it. The bulbs are the same and the US modules also have right-hand-rule lenses.
We have build an example kit in show quality with these lenses and they have the same lights improvement.
The halogen modules have H7 and H9 bulbs. We prefer to use Philips Night Guide bulbs for the H7 low beam.
So the wattage is the same. H7 is 55 watts and H9 is about 65 watts.
3. I prepare some pictures of the patterns at night, and link it into my next post.
4. Yes the lights have to open half way. There is no way to change this. This is because the frame for the hella modules is a direct replacement for the original reflector and it will mount direktly to the original mounts in the flap mechanism. If you change this, the lights will show the birds the way, but will not light the street.
5. according to point 3. I will post some additional pictures in my next post.
6. Question about Xenon Light: The xenon light is like any modern xenon light. It's like the xenon lights in the Corvette C6 for example. The C6 has xenon low beam and H9 halogen high beam. (correct me if I'm wrong, but it's what I've seen)
7. We use 50mm hella modules for the low beam and 90 mm modules for high beam (oh dear was it 90mm, I have to check that)
8. It is possible to use carbon fibre or what ever you want. It depends on the person who will build the bodies for us.
We have no experiences about forming carbon fibre, so the result could be a desaster. Help and Support are welcome!
9. Yes we have copied the instruction manual into a wiki system. My real job is IT Specialist so I like to have the documentation on the internet. I've started to copy the german instruction manual into this wiki system with all the original pictures (have a look at http://www.velumen.de/wiki/doku.php?...eitung_deutsch ) and then translated it to english with much effort (http://www.velumen.de/wiki/doku.php?...elines_english)
Oh, I'm sorry, but I've forgotten to add some pictures to the english version. You'll find the missing one in the german manual. (another ToDo on my list )
OK, I hope I've answered a lot of your questions. Now I'm going to answer the PMs I got.
Next post will be the one with the pictures of more details.
Best greetings from cold and windy germany
Birger
ok I'm back again. Lost some gas yesterday and burned some tires
OK let's answer the questions:
1. Price : Thats the big question. I can't make an offer for sale to you at the moment. My intention is to find a contact to bring the kit to you. At the moment we are two people and we have to build each HID Kit by hand. Especially the fiberglass bodies are made by hand, and consume much time (about 3 hours for each kit, with cleaning the form and cutting the bodies)
So we are looking for contacts, which have knowlege and experience in building fiberglass bodies.
So these contact would build the bodies for the kit and we deliver all the other things.
We have a price here in germany already to get back our costs for development, but I can not guarantee that you could translate this to US$.
I dont't know the costs for shipping, tax and all the other things we have to think about.
So please be patient we will discuss this point in the future.
2. The kit comes with hella 50mm lens modules. The german modules have the necessary control stamps for the german Technical Inspection Agency. The US modules are equal but have other control stamps on it. The bulbs are the same and the US modules also have right-hand-rule lenses.
We have build an example kit in show quality with these lenses and they have the same lights improvement.
The halogen modules have H7 and H9 bulbs. We prefer to use Philips Night Guide bulbs for the H7 low beam.
So the wattage is the same. H7 is 55 watts and H9 is about 65 watts.
3. I prepare some pictures of the patterns at night, and link it into my next post.
4. Yes the lights have to open half way. There is no way to change this. This is because the frame for the hella modules is a direct replacement for the original reflector and it will mount direktly to the original mounts in the flap mechanism. If you change this, the lights will show the birds the way, but will not light the street.
5. according to point 3. I will post some additional pictures in my next post.
6. Question about Xenon Light: The xenon light is like any modern xenon light. It's like the xenon lights in the Corvette C6 for example. The C6 has xenon low beam and H9 halogen high beam. (correct me if I'm wrong, but it's what I've seen)
7. We use 50mm hella modules for the low beam and 90 mm modules for high beam (oh dear was it 90mm, I have to check that)
8. It is possible to use carbon fibre or what ever you want. It depends on the person who will build the bodies for us.
We have no experiences about forming carbon fibre, so the result could be a desaster. Help and Support are welcome!
9. Yes we have copied the instruction manual into a wiki system. My real job is IT Specialist so I like to have the documentation on the internet. I've started to copy the german instruction manual into this wiki system with all the original pictures (have a look at http://www.velumen.de/wiki/doku.php?...eitung_deutsch ) and then translated it to english with much effort (http://www.velumen.de/wiki/doku.php?...elines_english)
Oh, I'm sorry, but I've forgotten to add some pictures to the english version. You'll find the missing one in the german manual. (another ToDo on my list )
OK, I hope I've answered a lot of your questions. Now I'm going to answer the PMs I got.
Next post will be the one with the pictures of more details.
Best greetings from cold and windy germany
Birger
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hi birger,
are the low beams the inner bulb or the outter bulb?
from some of the pics, it appears to be the inner bulb, which is not the common way of mounting from what i have seen.
if so, why did you choose to mount the low beams to the inside of the housing vs outside?
are the low beams the inner bulb or the outter bulb?
from some of the pics, it appears to be the inner bulb, which is not the common way of mounting from what i have seen.
if so, why did you choose to mount the low beams to the inside of the housing vs outside?
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Hi,
yes, the low beams are the inner ones. We chose the mount at the inner side, because of a better look and the needed space of the bigger high beams. If you change the order your corvette looks bored and tired.
Additional we had problems with the gear motor and it' mechanics when mounting the much longer high beam module to the inner side.
You can try it with photoshop and you will see that you destroy the agressive look.
yes, the low beams are the inner ones. We chose the mount at the inner side, because of a better look and the needed space of the bigger high beams. If you change the order your corvette looks bored and tired.
Additional we had problems with the gear motor and it' mechanics when mounting the much longer high beam module to the inner side.
You can try it with photoshop and you will see that you destroy the agressive look.
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OK, here are some additional photos.
I'm sorry but I didn't have any better photos about xenon at night.
(the one below is made in my garage)
I'll have to shot some in the next days.
Good news: We are in contact of local dealers and looking forward to bring the first example to your country.
OK now the detailed photos:
I'm sorry but I didn't have any better photos about xenon at night.
(the one below is made in my garage)
I'll have to shot some in the next days.
Good news: We are in contact of local dealers and looking forward to bring the first example to your country.
OK now the detailed photos:
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i assume are your lense bezels paint matched to your car?
are they normally black?
are they normally black?
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Hi,
no the lens bezels are not painted to macht my car. Hella delivers it in this color. You can paint it on your own if you want.
As I have seen, you could replace the H9 bulb with an H9 socket Xenon System. But in germany this change is not allowed, because of the missing stamps on the lens (only stamps for halogen on it)
So you can get the normal H9 system and replace the halogen bulb by your own. (or an local dealer will do it for you)
no the lens bezels are not painted to macht my car. Hella delivers it in this color. You can paint it on your own if you want.
As I have seen, you could replace the H9 bulb with an H9 socket Xenon System. But in germany this change is not allowed, because of the missing stamps on the lens (only stamps for halogen on it)
So you can get the normal H9 system and replace the halogen bulb by your own. (or an local dealer will do it for you)
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How much are you guys willing to spend on lights like these? We are working on some details now, but the kit is going to be a little expensive.
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Depends on where you buy the ACAs from, but remember the GP I was putting together? Times that by 2 before the vendor even gets a cut. A lot of stuff goes into these and since they are hand made/HID and all that they are more expensive. I will work to get costs down. I am even thinking of getting my own Xenon kits and using those to keep the costs a little down. Maybe by doing a GP or something we can get it low. First, I want to test them on my own ride. I am working with CustosOnLinux right now to figure something out.
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