Questions reguarding lifter and valve hold-up methods during cam swap
#21
Racer
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The claw type tool and it's issues were mentioned in another thread a while back. I posted that I had two sets of springs from different batches fail (year between batches) after a few thousand miles. One of the engines was destroyed. Since then I've used the same springs on other swaps using the cheap eBay lever tool instead and none have had issues.
I'll never use that claw tool again! If you did, you should honestly look to buy another set of springs and install them with a different tool.
I'll never use that claw tool again! If you did, you should honestly look to buy another set of springs and install them with a different tool.
what model springs were failing on you?
#22
Melting Slicks
Oh no....you will have to watch this carefully as that tool has reported to do some damage.
#23
Racer
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on dual .675 valvesprings with a .595/.598 cam?!?!?!!
i want more info, whos broken them and at what rpm with what setup, what power levels?
i want more info, whos broken them and at what rpm with what setup, what power levels?
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That tool makes scratches in the surface treatment. Gorilla strength getting heavy duals compressed I'm sure gouged the heck out of 'em under a microscope.
If it were me, I wouldn't trust those springs now because of the tool. Your results may vary.
#26
Racer
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oh, the comp 918's? the springs that had thousands of batches recalled because they were breaking reguardless of installation? i remember those springs, comp recalled everyones sets and replaced them free of charge. everyone was upgrading to the 921's at the time. and the 918 is a single spring if i recall correctly.
and i am aware of the overkill springs. TSP upgraded me due to not having the .600 springs in stock.
and i am aware of the overkill springs. TSP upgraded me due to not having the .600 springs in stock.
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oh, the comp 918's? the springs that had thousands of batches recalled because they were breaking reguardless of installation? i remember those springs, comp recalled everyones sets and replaced them free of charge. everyone was upgrading to the 921's at the time. and the 918 is a single spring if i recall correctly.
and i am aware of the overkill springs. TSP upgraded me due to not having the .600 springs in stock.
and i am aware of the overkill springs. TSP upgraded me due to not having the .600 springs in stock.
But hey, we're all saying this stuff for nothing...... carry on.
#28
Racer
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you're mistaking me. I appreciate all the advice and knowledge from you guys. thats why im looking deeper into it rather than turn the other cheek.
is there any threads about this tool causing harm? did this ever happen to anyone using the PRC .675 dual springs on a smaller camshaft?
i understand the possibilities. i also understand folks using a 620+ lift cam put a ton of stress on valve springs.
those that broke them, what cam was being run with what springs? what rpm was the engine spun to? any power adders, or larger than stock applications?
importantly, what was the oil temperature at the time of failure? was tyhe engine warmed properly or just started from a colder state, and drag raced or dyno'ed?
all these AND possibly that tool can contribute to failed valve springs. lets narrow it down
is there any threads about this tool causing harm? did this ever happen to anyone using the PRC .675 dual springs on a smaller camshaft?
i understand the possibilities. i also understand folks using a 620+ lift cam put a ton of stress on valve springs.
those that broke them, what cam was being run with what springs? what rpm was the engine spun to? any power adders, or larger than stock applications?
importantly, what was the oil temperature at the time of failure? was tyhe engine warmed properly or just started from a colder state, and drag raced or dyno'ed?
all these AND possibly that tool can contribute to failed valve springs. lets narrow it down
#29
Tech Contributor
you're mistaking me. I appreciate all the advice and knowledge from you guys. thats why im looking deeper into it rather than turn the other cheek.
is there any threads about this tool causing harm? did this ever happen to anyone using the PRC .675 dual springs on a smaller camshaft?
i understand the possibilities. i also understand folks using a 620+ lift cam put a ton of stress on valve springs.
those that broke them, what cam was being run with what springs? what rpm was the engine spun to? any power adders, or larger than stock applications?
importantly, what was the oil temperature at the time of failure? was tyhe engine warmed properly or just started from a colder state, and drag raced or dyno'ed?
all these AND possibly that tool can contribute to failed valve springs. lets narrow it down
is there any threads about this tool causing harm? did this ever happen to anyone using the PRC .675 dual springs on a smaller camshaft?
i understand the possibilities. i also understand folks using a 620+ lift cam put a ton of stress on valve springs.
those that broke them, what cam was being run with what springs? what rpm was the engine spun to? any power adders, or larger than stock applications?
importantly, what was the oil temperature at the time of failure? was tyhe engine warmed properly or just started from a colder state, and drag raced or dyno'ed?
all these AND possibly that tool can contribute to failed valve springs. lets narrow it down
#30
Team Owner
you're mistaking me. I appreciate all the advice and knowledge from you guys. thats why im looking deeper into it rather than turn the other cheek.
is there any threads about this tool causing harm? did this ever happen to anyone using the PRC .675 dual springs on a smaller camshaft?
i understand the possibilities. i also understand folks using a 620+ lift cam put a ton of stress on valve springs.
those that broke them, what cam was being run with what springs? what rpm was the engine spun to? any power adders, or larger than stock applications?
importantly, what was the oil temperature at the time of failure? was tyhe engine warmed properly or just started from a colder state, and drag raced or dyno'ed?
all these AND possibly that tool can contribute to failed valve springs. lets narrow it down
is there any threads about this tool causing harm? did this ever happen to anyone using the PRC .675 dual springs on a smaller camshaft?
i understand the possibilities. i also understand folks using a 620+ lift cam put a ton of stress on valve springs.
those that broke them, what cam was being run with what springs? what rpm was the engine spun to? any power adders, or larger than stock applications?
importantly, what was the oil temperature at the time of failure? was tyhe engine warmed properly or just started from a colder state, and drag raced or dyno'ed?
all these AND possibly that tool can contribute to failed valve springs. lets narrow it down