Idle and hesitation problems dirt gas
#1
Instructor
Thread Starter
Idle and hesitation problems dirty gas
Need some advice before i start.
Had no past problems. Car was sitting for several weeks on E (hardly any gas). ( i know thats where i went wrong).
Car drove fine to gas station. Filled up 15 plus gallons. Immediately the rmps were dropping below 500 and sometimes to 100. The car didnt shut off. It stayed running. Hesitating when trying to drive.
My guess, the tank had dirt or water. The filter needs replacment.
pump too?
What do you guys think?
Car has 35k 2002 6 speed. Never changed the gas filter, injectors, or plugs.
Please advise.
Thank you
John
Had no past problems. Car was sitting for several weeks on E (hardly any gas). ( i know thats where i went wrong).
Car drove fine to gas station. Filled up 15 plus gallons. Immediately the rmps were dropping below 500 and sometimes to 100. The car didnt shut off. It stayed running. Hesitating when trying to drive.
My guess, the tank had dirt or water. The filter needs replacment.
pump too?
What do you guys think?
Car has 35k 2002 6 speed. Never changed the gas filter, injectors, or plugs.
Please advise.
Thank you
John
Last edited by elctron02; 08-19-2012 at 08:40 AM. Reason: Mispelled word
#2
Burning Brakes
If it were me I would just drive it for awhile and see if it clears up on its on. If it was running fine when you parked it and all you did was fill it up I dought it is from the gas, you just dont see that being the cause today with any type of volume filling station. Just take it out for a nice drive and worst case it will set a code IF there is a real problem and go from there. Just a side note I tend to change the fuel filter every 30K but thats just me.
#4
Burning Brakes
#5
Dirt in gas? No..Bad gas? Unlikely unless you bought gas at some really crappy old station where you had more teeth than 8 of the customer's and employees there...
Your issue, I would bet ALOT of money on..is water in the fuel tank. When a tank is empty it causes water build up on the inside surface's sometime's when condition's are right. You did not say how far the gas station was. But seeming as the car was on empty as you say I would bet it was pretty darn close. odd's are you drove fine because she was only running on the fuel in the line's and sucked up what remained of the gas right as you got to the station. Water in gas will "bubble" on the bottom of the tank. Odd's are you sucked some of that up and it's in the line's now. the ONLY thing you can do is either drain out the entire system in which is VERY complicated and expensive. OR you can go to the store, get yourself some HEET in a bottle. Pour that in and drive your baby around. I am sure within no time at all with you doing that she will be purring like a kitten again. MAY wanna get two bottles, but one should do it.
Your issue, I would bet ALOT of money on..is water in the fuel tank. When a tank is empty it causes water build up on the inside surface's sometime's when condition's are right. You did not say how far the gas station was. But seeming as the car was on empty as you say I would bet it was pretty darn close. odd's are you drove fine because she was only running on the fuel in the line's and sucked up what remained of the gas right as you got to the station. Water in gas will "bubble" on the bottom of the tank. Odd's are you sucked some of that up and it's in the line's now. the ONLY thing you can do is either drain out the entire system in which is VERY complicated and expensive. OR you can go to the store, get yourself some HEET in a bottle. Pour that in and drive your baby around. I am sure within no time at all with you doing that she will be purring like a kitten again. MAY wanna get two bottles, but one should do it.
#6
I LOVE techron for the sensor issues we have, BUT am not sure if its meant to combine with water like HEET is. So i can not say this will work for sure or not. BUT if it's acohol based like HEET is then it "Should" work as well. Just like using additive's for what they are designed for. But again, for all I know they may even have it right on the bottle that it will work for water in gas, Just cant remember if it does or not.
#7
Instructor
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So i bought a few different types. I put 2 in. I had a full tank. The car wont start at first. Then she turned over. It had a rough idle for awhile. It shut off a couple of times. Then she started to run better. She was able stay on around 750 rpms. Took it around the block. Not great but bettter. I still think i need a new filter and possibly a pump?
Now hear this. As im trying to on this problem, i now cant get the car in reverse. Never had a problem with reverse. Whats going on with my c5. I dont even drive it hard. Never raced. Could it be a solenoid?
Now hear this. As im trying to on this problem, i now cant get the car in reverse. Never had a problem with reverse. Whats going on with my c5. I dont even drive it hard. Never raced. Could it be a solenoid?
#8
What "types" did you put in? If you did not put any thing in meant to get water out then you wont solve your issue. As far as filter goes, it's never a bad thing to change. BUT for what it's worth, once the additive gets in the fuel system pretty good there will be NO water anywhere left in the system. Including the filter.. that stuff does exactly what it's meant to do! Otherwise I would not have told you to put it in...
Now, as for reverse..I imagine the first thing to do is turn the car off and try again to slide her into reverse. Post up if that works.. On the old t5's i could tell you whatever you wanted to know, i rebuilt three of them to World class specs and beyond. But with these 6 speed fawker's I just dont know buddy. Good luck and I am sure someone with more info on the trans will post up!
Now, as for reverse..I imagine the first thing to do is turn the car off and try again to slide her into reverse. Post up if that works.. On the old t5's i could tell you whatever you wanted to know, i rebuilt three of them to World class specs and beyond. But with these 6 speed fawker's I just dont know buddy. Good luck and I am sure someone with more info on the trans will post up!
#10
Instructor
Thread Starter
Yes. I probably need to run the car till no gas a few times
QUOTE=jcgunn;1581614526]With water in the fuel, the car will be very hard to start, idle poorly until it is hot and then (usually) run OK. Is this what you are seeing?[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=jcgunn;1581614526]With water in the fuel, the car will be very hard to start, idle poorly until it is hot and then (usually) run OK. Is this what you are seeing?[/QUOTE]