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Old 02-17-2017, 12:05 PM   #1
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Hi I can't get my steering wheel out of locked position on my 2001 z06 C5
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:11 PM   #2
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Google LMC5, or have you already installed one?
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:25 PM   #3
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If you haven't installed the LMC5 yet...

http://complianceparts.com/lmc5ataglance.html
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1000%.

Get an LMC5 and install it. And do the brown wire mod explained on page 2 of the install instructions WHEN you do the LMC5 install!!!!!!!!

Your problem started as a low or weak battery or loose or corroded battery connections including at the starter. Those are the MOST COMMON cause of the column lock symptoms. Get the battery checked out. Just because the car can be started does NOT mean the battery has the proper voltage to operate the column lock system. It relies on a minimum voltage level. The starter requires current that can be generated even with low battery voltage....

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Old 02-17-2017, 01:29 PM   #5
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Try turning the wheel REALLY HARD clockwise and turn the key to the ON position at the same time. Only thing that saved me from a tow in the middle of a parking lot after work.
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Oh and to mirror the others, get the LMC5. Its a snap to install and also do the brown wire mod.
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Old 02-17-2017, 06:57 PM   #7
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Try turning the wheel REALLY HARD clockwise and turn the key to the ON position at the same time. Only thing that saved me from a tow in the middle of a parking lot after work.
This works. I put all of my weight on the wheel and clicked the key and the wheel popped free. After that I did the CLB at the time.
For my current C5Z I ordered the LMC5 first thing.
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Try turning the wheel REALLY HARD clockwise and turn the key to the ON position at the same time. Only thing that saved me from a tow in the middle of a parking lot after work.
Thant sounds more informed than the advice that saved me, to violently shake the wheel . Screaming and cursing might be optional with the shake, but I throw it in anyway.
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:53 PM   #9
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I had to take the two torx screws out of the column on my manual vert and tap the housing on the lock - seems the pin gets stuck according to Rich at LMC5 - once you get it unlocked install the LMC5 right away and be sure ti pull fuse 23 from the passenger footwell panel first - do the brown wire mod too - if you call Rich he can walk you thru the entire process including how to get the pin unlocked - he was a lifesaver for me - Compliance Parts

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all this good advice and O.P. never heard again, seems to be happening alot lately
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all this good advice and O.P. never heard again, seems to be happening alot lately
Yep. One post ever...
"Thanks for the help guys", nope.
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Yep. One post ever...
"Thanks for the help guys", nope.
Be courteous here???? Why??? You can always get free help at your local Stealership! Right??

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1000%.

Get an LMC5 and install it. And do the brown wire mod explained on page 2 of the install instructions WHEN you do the LMC5 install!!!!!!!!

Your problem started as a low or weak battery or loose or corroded battery connections including at the starter. Those are the MOST COMMON cause of the column lock symptoms. Get the battery checked out. Just because the car can be started does NOT mean the battery has the proper voltage to operate the column lock system. It relies on a minimum voltage level. The starter requires current that can be generated even with low battery voltage....
This might sound funny but I did the LMC5 a few weeks ago and the MGW shifter last week.
Did the original stock system actualy lock the transmission shifter too, I don't really remember if it locked or not and haven't had the car that long.
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This might sound funny but I did the LMC5 a few weeks ago and the MGW shifter last week.
Did the original stock system actualy lock the transmission shifter too, I don't really remember if it locked or not and haven't had the car that long.
No. Only the steering wheel was locked.

The flaw with the original system that forced the NHTSA to demand GM recall the cars was that it was possible under certain circumstances to be able to drive the car with the wheel locked. Pretty scary that an unknowledgeable driver might actually attempt to drive the car.....

The recall service for manual trans cars reprogrammed the PCM to set the fuel shutoff speed to 2mph. So, when the column lock system (controlled by the BCM) "thought" that the column was locked when it ought not be locked, the BCM signaled the PCM to enable the fuel shutoff. The PCM then cuts off fuel when the vehicle speed reaches 2mph thus ending the joy ride of that unknowledgeable driver. Problem with that design is that the BCM does not actually know if the column is locked or not. It simply "logically" or perhaps more correctly " illogically" decides that the column is locked and acts on that judgement in requesting the fuel shutoff be enabled. Column might or might not be locked.

That is why devices like the CLB and later the LMC5 got developed to prevent the wheel from physically locking and to substitute aftermarket electronics that talked to the BCM fooling it into thinking the column lock system was working when in actuality the column no longer physically locks.

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