[Z06] friggin new mustangs
12-30-2011, 07:30 PM
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Lots of Mustang hate here HAHA 
I wouldn't mind having a 2012 GT 5.0 w/a stick for a DD, would never get rid of the C5Z for it though. I would only get rid of my C5Z for a C6Z or C6ZR1
I wouldn't mind having a 2012 GT 5.0 w/a stick for a DD, would never get rid of the C5Z for it though. I would only get rid of my C5Z for a C6Z or C6ZR1
12-31-2011, 05:37 AM
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I am a car lover who can appreciate any car and what they have to offer. If people read earlier posts I'm not really bashing the mustang but talking about how its owners are in a class of their own. Yes I did bash the styling, imo its extremely ugly. This kid I work with is the typical mustang guy. A typical mustang guy puts on a cai and a k&n sticker and talks about racing a viper pulling 4 car lengths on him. The guy who has 250 HP but claims its 350 but won't prove it. The guy who parks his car but when challenged then always has an excuse. THEY don't appreciate other cars and are the first ones to talk smack about yours. I'll give it to mustang they definetly stepped it up because they had too but a typical mustang owner remains the same.
Those people can be great and they can be a-holes. I've met great guys and d-bags from all corners.
This doesn't mean you shouldn't have some pride in your machine, on the contrary, it's that pride that enthusiasts have in the cars and the work they've put in them that motivates us. Some heated road courses, some tire burning drag races, or just throwing a high gloss shine and taking her to a show, whatever your choice is the comrodery and cmopetition is what keeps us going. I preffer to keep it that way and not catagorize ffellow enthusiasts. I've never seen people as "mustang guys" or "vette guys" just car guys.
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12-31-2011, 01:40 PM
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Melting Slicks
I'm very familiar with Mustangs on the track having spent the last 2 seasons racing a Mustang FR500 wheel to wheel, got to drive behind Roger Miller in his new Boss 302R that he is running in Grand Am. it pulled the old car the FR500 hard in the straights seemed to have a lot of power, but my street c5Z06 with a stock Motor and 110,000 miles on the clocks( Pfadt sways, shocks and scrubs slicks) still made faster lap times than the boss 302R (full factory built race car $120,000) on Millers west track.
01-01-2012, 07:39 AM
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I'm actually headed to the track with a few buds on January 13th. They have the following:
2000 SS M6, bolt ons, 228r cam, 3.73's - 390/375
2011 5.0 M6, bolt ons, 3.73's - 410rwhp
2011 5.0 M6, bolt ons w/ boss intake, 3.73's - 438rwhp
Guess we will see who the better driver is that day.
2000 SS M6, bolt ons, 228r cam, 3.73's - 390/375
2011 5.0 M6, bolt ons, 3.73's - 410rwhp
2011 5.0 M6, bolt ons w/ boss intake, 3.73's - 438rwhp
Guess we will see who the better driver is that day.
01-01-2012, 08:13 AM
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Le Mans Master
I like the old mustangs, thats about it. I have a 68 coupe that gets as much love and attention as my C3 big block. My wife owns an 06 V6 mustang that has been a good reliable car for as long as she owned it. I wouldnt get a new GT for myself because I like my C5 much better but I wouldnt bash anyone for liking them. Then again, there does seem to be a larger portion of new mustang drivers acting like a douche than vette owners
01-01-2012, 11:30 AM
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Yea I'm definetly gonna practice more once the tracks open again. Tires are almost shot and gonna get some new wider ones which should help my launch. Even with the old tires I was running low 2.0's 60ft which I thought was fairly good. Hopefully the new tires do the trick. As for the guy saying we should give love to the mustang I can't until they quit making them so ugly. Horsepower good, styling awful.
As for tires, the OEM F1s can consistently cut 1.8x sixties on a well prepped track. It's recommended to keep this same tire if replacing them. Wider does not mean better. A DR is a definite step up.
I think its a drivers race no matter what tires I use. I use dr, he uses dr. I've searched and found mustangs running dr, cai, tune, catback running low 12's in the quarter. That's me too. In a straight line it seems even, on a road course I can't see it touching a vette though. Shaped like a brick and top heavy.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
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01-01-2012, 11:50 AM
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I don't know why all the Mustang hate? The FMC has taken a stylish, but underachieving motor/chassis, and really made it perform. The "Boss" version has been compared favorably to a V8 M3, which costs about twice as much. And this is including it's road racing abilities. I'm not advocating trading in our Zs for one, but really; lets be fair.
Well when you are asking about advice on a DRAG race and all the corvette owners here are making excuses and saying "take him to a road coarse or blah blah blah"..... they sure are acting like "mustang owners"....
The fact of the matter is ford FINALLY put together a competitive package for the Mustang and now its giving Vettes a run for the money and it seems that some vette owners are having a hard time coping....
.... If you can drive and get out of your car what it is capable of, you SHOULD be able to cover the Mustang, especially if he is an average driver... You just can't blow the tires off and you need to nail the shifts...
I ran a 12.16@117 in my 02 Z06 with drag radials and a vararam, all else was stock.... It did take me about 15 passes to get it down there though.. Also this was in pretty good air.... <1000' DA.
That mustang with CAI and a tune MAY be capable of these same times but he will have to drive the crap out of it and leave hard/hook.... You can probably cover him though.... I would slap some drag radials on it for insurance.... you have enough power, you need to get it to the ground...
The fact of the matter is ford FINALLY put together a competitive package for the Mustang and now its giving Vettes a run for the money and it seems that some vette owners are having a hard time coping....
.... If you can drive and get out of your car what it is capable of, you SHOULD be able to cover the Mustang, especially if he is an average driver... You just can't blow the tires off and you need to nail the shifts...
I ran a 12.16@117 in my 02 Z06 with drag radials and a vararam, all else was stock.... It did take me about 15 passes to get it down there though.. Also this was in pretty good air.... <1000' DA.
That mustang with CAI and a tune MAY be capable of these same times but he will have to drive the crap out of it and leave hard/hook.... You can probably cover him though.... I would slap some drag radials on it for insurance.... you have enough power, you need to get it to the ground...
Agreed.
I never cared about what car someone was driving. It seems like he just wanted to race because he's an enthusiast not to prove that mustangs are better than vettes. I never understood why some guys blow thing out of proportion with the whole "rivalry".
The least you can do is educate yourself about the cars before you smack talk. Modern day mustangs will do great on both the drag strip and the road course. I've seen track-pack GT's beat new M3's arond the course.
How about we just respect each other and be car enthusiasts not just brand loyalists?
My .02
I never cared about what car someone was driving. It seems like he just wanted to race because he's an enthusiast not to prove that mustangs are better than vettes. I never understood why some guys blow thing out of proportion with the whole "rivalry".
The least you can do is educate yourself about the cars before you smack talk. Modern day mustangs will do great on both the drag strip and the road course. I've seen track-pack GT's beat new M3's arond the course.
How about we just respect each other and be car enthusiasts not just brand loyalists?
My .02
I was all set to buy a C4 Zr1 or C5 Z06 this coming summer but am now considering a 4 seat alternative.
My 8 year old keeps giving me the guilt trip about not being able to take the whole family on rides! So now I've found myself considering Mustangs, Camaros, M3s and Porches.
And dont even get me started on the reputation that "Vette owners" have..... LOL..... Especially classic Vette owners....85% of them are douchebags.... Enthusiasts from just about every other brand/model of car all have the same opinion of most "Vette Owners"...Thats likely for a good reason...
I happen to be an exception...
I happen to be an exception...
When you have an A&A in your car, I don't think you really care what anyone else is bringing.
Remember, there is always somebody faster.
Personally, I like the 5.0 Mustangs, I would definitely drive the **** outta one if I had one. But when I bought my Z, they weren't out yet. I'd take the 5.0 over the Camaro any day of the week.
I don't really care what anyone else drives and how fast it can go, I'm happy with my car and don't care what anyone else thinks about it.
Aren't we all out of high school by now?
Remember, there is always somebody faster.
Personally, I like the 5.0 Mustangs, I would definitely drive the **** outta one if I had one. But when I bought my Z, they weren't out yet. I'd take the 5.0 over the Camaro any day of the week.
I don't really care what anyone else drives and how fast it can go, I'm happy with my car and don't care what anyone else thinks about it.
Aren't we all out of high school by now?
Some car lover.... I owned an '01 Cobra before my Z, and though I only had it two years, I was glad that I didn't get a SS of the same vintage; talk about ugly; the Firebird was hideous. So I guess after owning my Z for over 8 years, and modding it for most of those years, I'm NOT a "typical" Mustang owner? Whatever that is....
I owned an '01 Cobra before my Z, and though I only had it two years, I was glad that I didn't get a SS of the same vintage; talk about ugly; the Firebird was hideous. So I guess after owning my Z for over 8 years, and modding it for most of those years, I'm NOT a "typical" Mustang owner? Whatever that is....I've met this guy, in every make and model of car on the planet. That's the point some of us are trying to drive home, it's not the cars, it's the people in them.
Those people can be great and they can be a-holes. I've met great guys and d-bags from all corners.
This doesn't mean you shouldn't have some pride in your machine, on the contrary, it's that pride that enthusiasts have in the cars and the work they've put in them that motivates us. Some heated road courses, some tire burning drag races, or just throwing a high gloss shine and taking her to a show, whatever your choice is the comrodery and cmopetition is what keeps us going. I preffer to keep it that way and not catagorize ffellow enthusiasts. I've never seen people as "mustang guys" or "vette guys" just car guys.
Those people can be great and they can be a-holes. I've met great guys and d-bags from all corners.
This doesn't mean you shouldn't have some pride in your machine, on the contrary, it's that pride that enthusiasts have in the cars and the work they've put in them that motivates us. Some heated road courses, some tire burning drag races, or just throwing a high gloss shine and taking her to a show, whatever your choice is the comrodery and cmopetition is what keeps us going. I preffer to keep it that way and not catagorize ffellow enthusiasts. I've never seen people as "mustang guys" or "vette guys" just car guys.
with all of the above posts. TOO many people are brand loyalists defending their cars to the very end. Nothing wrong with being a little proud unless it turns one into a douche. Robz recently posted a thread on SVTPerformance in the timeslip section which is suppose to be for all cars and not just Fords. Initially there was the condescending attitude where many showed their True Colors and the thread became nasty. Fortunately, the truth came out by the level headed crowd and the thread became civilized. Those new Stangs are BadA$$ and I would not mind owning one to see what can be extracted from it.
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01-01-2012, 04:14 PM
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I do admit i need more seat time and new tires will help. Maybe then I could get some 1.8 60 ft times. Hopefully zmax has more test and tunes this year.
01-01-2012, 04:51 PM
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with all of the above posts. TOO many people are brand loyalists defending their cars to the very end. Nothing wrong with being a little proud unless it turns one into a douche. Robz recently posted a thread on SVTPerformance in the timeslip section which is suppose to be for all cars and not just Fords. Initially there was the condescending attitude where many showed their True Colors and the thread became nasty. Fortunately, the truth came out by the level headed crowd and the thread became civilized. Those new Stangs are BadA$$ and I would not mind owning one to see what can be extracted from it.
01-01-2012, 05:14 PM
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if i needed back seats a new five-0 with 3.73's and brembos would top my list.. good friend of mine has a 11 gt with the 373's. intake, orx , catback and lund tune.. thing is a blast to drive. i really love the 5th gear is the 1:1 rather than 4th gear.. just a really nice fun to drive car.. traps 119mph too.. interior is really nice too..
01-01-2012, 07:38 PM
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I'm a Car Guy for sure. I especially prefer American Muscle. I just recently traded in my Mustang for a Vette because I wanted a Vette. Not because if which one was faster or better but simply because I wanted a Corvette before I turned 40. Made it with several years to spare!...lol...
I still have a '68 Coupe in my stable and a "Pony" tattoo to match!
but as for the OP, if you like lining them up for the fun of it, then i say run him with what u have and see how it plays out. Fanboys on both sides can be a pain but its all in how you act in the end. If he wins, just say good race and move on whether he brags or not.
there will always be someone faster ya know!
I still have a '68 Coupe in my stable and a "Pony" tattoo to match!
but as for the OP, if you like lining them up for the fun of it, then i say run him with what u have and see how it plays out. Fanboys on both sides can be a pain but its all in how you act in the end. If he wins, just say good race and move on whether he brags or not.
there will always be someone faster ya know!
01-01-2012, 07:51 PM
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i will say when i was the Prez of the local Stang club for 5yrs, i heard folks saying we had attitudes as well...perception is reality...i know that i mingled with everyone...imports, classics, SMART fourtwo's...lol
01-01-2012, 09:13 PM
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Drifting
In terms of acceleration...
Stock for stock, advantage Z06
Mod for mod, advantage Z06
Horsepower is great and all, but weight and traction make a huge difference.
I will say that I am a fan of the new mustangs. Much better than the camaro and anything dodge is putting out.
Stock for stock, advantage Z06
Mod for mod, advantage Z06
Horsepower is great and all, but weight and traction make a huge difference.
I will say that I am a fan of the new mustangs. Much better than the camaro and anything dodge is putting out.
01-02-2012, 12:23 AM
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I'm actually headed to the track with a few buds on January 13th. They have the following:
2000 SS M6, bolt ons, 228r cam, 3.73's - 390/375
2011 5.0 M6, bolt ons, 3.73's - 410rwhp
2011 5.0 M6, bolt ons w/ boss intake, 3.73's - 438rwhp
Guess we will see who the better driver is that day.
2000 SS M6, bolt ons, 228r cam, 3.73's - 390/375
2011 5.0 M6, bolt ons, 3.73's - 410rwhp
2011 5.0 M6, bolt ons w/ boss intake, 3.73's - 438rwhp
Guess we will see who the better driver is that day.
01-02-2012, 12:28 AM
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if i needed back seats a new five-0 with 3.73's and brembos would top my list.. good friend of mine has a 11 gt with the 373's. intake, orx , catback and lund tune.. thing is a blast to drive. i really love the 5th gear is the 1:1 rather than 4th gear.. just a really nice fun to drive car.. traps 119mph too.. interior is really nice too..
01-02-2012, 12:55 AM
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