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[Z06] Raced a terminator today!!!

Old 02-17-2017, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 00__Vette
How do you explain the double pods on his A-piller? No way someone would put that their if they didn't add boost somehow. Typically that is done to monitor more boost. They make 10lbs on the stock supercharger and the stock gauge only monitors 10lbs.

I'm guessing Pulley and exhaust at a minimum.
Same reason some people would put SS or z28 badges on a base model Camaro, they just like the look of them or like to pretend it's something it's not. You'd probably want to run him from a 5mph roll to really compare the two cars. I would suspect you would still pull on him. These c5z's have very aggressive gearing in 1-3 and as mentioned weigh around 500lbs less. Stock 03-04 Cobras dyno pretty close to a stock 02-04z.
Old 02-17-2017, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MY03C5Z
Same reason some people would put SS or z28 badges on a base model Camaro, they just like the look of them or like to pretend it's something it's not. You'd probably want to run him from a 5mph roll to really compare the two cars. I would suspect you would still pull on him. These c5z's have very aggressive gearing in 1-3 and as mentioned weigh around 500lbs less. Stock 03-04 Cobras dyno pretty close to a stock 02-04z.
Yeah, you maybe right!! Sucks that I didn't get to talk with he guy. I can't wait until I get a new clutch and some LT headers. I should run solid 11's in the 1/4 with those mods and some DR's.

Love this car!!!
Old 02-17-2017, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MY03C5Z
Same reason some people would put SS or z28 badges on a base model Camaro, they just like the look of them or like to pretend it's something it's not. You'd probably want to run him from a 5mph roll to really compare the two cars. I would suspect you would still pull on him. These c5z's have very aggressive gearing in 1-3 and as mentioned weigh around 500lbs less. Stock 03-04 Cobras dyno pretty close to a stock 02-04z.
Stock terminators typically make quite a bit more power than stock c5z's.

A friend of mine put down 400rwhp completely stock on the stock tune. Terminators are awesome cars, I would love to have one. If I had to choose between a second c5z and a terminator I would have a very difficult choice
Old 02-17-2017, 08:25 PM
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Last year I sold my 03 Terminator Vert that was putting 528 to the ground. It was ported and polished pulleyed and tuned, 16 lbs of boost. I like the Z06 better but don't under estimate a Terminator with a good driver they are quick!
Old 02-17-2017, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Excessv
Last year I sold my 03 Terminator Vert that was putting 528 to the ground. It was ported and polished pulleyed and tuned, 16 lbs of boost. I like the Z06 better but don't under estimate a Terminator with a good driver they are quick!
Damn!! That's a stout Cobra you had there. I bet it was fun to drive.

Yeah, I have a buddy with an 03' Cobra. He had bolt ons, pulley (not sure which one) and tune. Back in the day when I still have my 00' C5 coupe, I had H/C full bolt ons w/3:90 gears. We ran a few times at the drag strip back in 2007 and we were dead even. It was a drivers race at that point.

However, I had 175hp shot of nitrous that put me in the 10's. But when we would run, I wouldn't spray so we could have more even racing for the fun of it. The car was no joke!!! Love the Terminators.

The one I raced yesterday was maroon!! Man, that thing was sweet!!
Old 02-17-2017, 11:16 PM
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I have found the best bolt on (in) for my 04 Z16 has been the 525rwhp 416. I've decided that THIS is the mod it should have come from the factory with! (And the C6 shifter, mantic clutch, LT's, elec cutouts, drag radials...)
Old 02-18-2017, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dbgoodwin
Stock terminators typically make quite a bit more power than stock c5z's.

A friend of mine put down 400rwhp completely stock on the stock tune. Terminators are awesome cars, I would love to have one. If I had to choose between a second c5z and a terminator I would have a very difficult choice
Hmm, I thought they were around 370-380 whp stock. I love them too, very cool cars. With the weight and gearing advantage pretty sure a z is going to be quicker stock.
Old 02-18-2017, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MY03C5Z
Hmm, I thought they were around 370-380 whp stock. I love them too, very cool cars. With the weight and gearing advantage pretty sure a z is going to be quicker stock.
They are quicker stock for stock, and even a stock coupe could hang with a vert terminator I think.

I couldnt give up my z for one, but I still think the terminator is one of the baddest cars ford has put out to date.
Old 02-18-2017, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 0H1Z06
03-04 Terminators are great cars... however, they are pigs compared to your C5Z... Its no wonder you pulled on him. I am pretty confident that his wasn't modded... Very nice.
If done right they are absolute beasts.


However, the previous owner of my car showed me a video of him pulling half a dozen cars on a "600rwhp" Terminator.

Most people don't do their cars right. They have heat problems even stock so that peak hp falls off real fast.
Old 02-20-2017, 09:59 AM
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Can I bring my Cobra out to play?




Old 02-20-2017, 07:52 PM
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In stock form the termis were all over the place hp wise. Most of the engines were over performers and a lot of cars made more power than advertised. A great platform to make a lot of power and retain the daily drivability. On the other side C5z has a bigger displacement engine, lighter, better gearing and more aero.
Old 02-20-2017, 08:26 PM
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I had a 03 Cobra. I had originally done a pulley swap on an factory supercharger with Steigmeier porting and a tune an made 485rwhp. I had two pillar pods, one was for fuel pressure an the other for air/fuel ratio. They do make an overlay for the factory boost gauge and a way to calibrate it to read up to 15psi. I then went with a whipple and tune an got 602 rwhp at 14 psi. Problem was the widest wheels were 10.5 inches and the 305 DR still had major traction issues. I saw videos and read about guys with mostly stock C6Z's pulling on whippled Cobras. Parted that sucker back to stock, sold it an bought a C6Z. Now I wanna keep my Z mostly stock an buy a 02-04 C5 an supercharge it.
Old 02-21-2017, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NosLaser
Can I bring my Cobra out to play?
Only if you want me to break you off in my 88mm 8 second f-body.


I was also confused by the speeds as 45mph is 2nd gear and 70mph is 3rd for roll-ons in the C5. You're not beating anyone at 45mph in 3rd.
Old 02-22-2017, 05:25 AM
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I raced a terminator from 40'ish, 2nd gear (4 cars or so behind him at the start), by 5th at 155 I was one car ahead. Top of 4th and through 5th I started pullin him hard. We slowed, he asked what power I was making. I was I/H/E 02Z and said approx 380whp, he said "damnit, I always lose to Corvette's...I'm makin 485whp." He said he was buying a C5Z next...lol.
Old 02-23-2017, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Drewstein
Only if you want me to break you off in my 88mm 8 second f-body.


I was also confused by the speeds as 45mph is 2nd gear and 70mph is 3rd for roll-ons in the C5. You're not beating anyone at 45mph in 3rd.
8 second car vs 8 second car...sounds like a fair race to me
Old 02-23-2017, 10:57 AM
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I have a friend with a 722hp KB E85 terminator car. He bought a stock C5Z and said I am done with that Mustang it drives like a dump truck hahahaha! We are putting a 2300 on his C5Z now lol.
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Are you sure it was an 03/04 Cobra and not a 2001 (or 99)? They look exactly the same. 1999/2001 is not supercharged.

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Old 02-23-2017, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NosLaser
8 second car vs 8 second car...sounds like a fair race to me
The question is, who's going to be the mid 8 second car.

Keep her shinny side up.
Old 02-23-2017, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Drewstein
The question is, who's going to be the mid 8 second car.

Keep her shinny side up.
My cage is cert'd to 8.50's for now, so we shall see.

And you as well brother.
Old 02-23-2017, 05:28 PM
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My cage only goes to 10.0, haven't added to it since the power bump haha. I have to go to track rentals and 1/2 mile events haha.

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